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All Tuberculosis programs funded by the U.S. Gov were officially terminated

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Here's what I found researching this.

US domestic TB funding by CDC, through state and local programs, have not been cut.

The Global Fund to Fight AIDS, Tuberculosis and Malaria is still funded by the US congressional appropriations through State department ($6B for 2023-2025) but future funding is in review.

USAID funding for the Global Drug Facility was cut. GDF is a treatment coordinator which helps deliver drugs and treatments to areas in need. GDF is managed by the Stop TB Partnership (a UN OPS program) and has largely been a success so it's not going away as it's funded by multiple nations and private organizations.

State Department could include GDF in the existing emergency humanitarian waiver.

GDF for reference, on what it does (2007) apparently Canada is the biggest funder: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC2636664/

Sp, what idiots would call a good start

Honestly, not enough USAID was cut. Most of it will move to the State Department. USAID is used to hide clandestine CIA operatives that destabilize states. Corbett covered it years ago:

https://odysee.com/@corbettreport:0/flashback-usaid:7

It's fascinates me that people who have never heard of USAID, who are completely unfamiliar with how many left-wing groups have protested it over the decades, are suddenly outrages when a program is cut they knew nothing about until 5 minutes ago.

Nations become more authoritarian after USAID. There is no free lunch.

This is a false conspiracy theory. Source: my parents are state and commerce dept diplomats. I grew up living overseas, and worked in a US embassy myself. I have known USAID people and the lifesaving work they do since I was a kid (I'm 38).

CIA is CIA, and it has done things you may be rightfully uncomfortable with. If you don't like the CIA, complain about the CIA.

You, and this Corbett guy, are spreading misinformation with the result of destroying the careers of people who have dedicated their lives to good, and you are murdering people overseas, such as those who unexpectedly had their only source of antiretrovirals cut off.

Also, I never heard anyone call it "US aid" until this year. It's always been pronounced "U S A I D". So, that's one way to tell if someone just found out about it, I guess.

Did you look at the full video? Yes there are a lot of aid organizations that do things via USAID. Corbett mentions that at the end. But the trouble is the CIA hides people within NGOs in order to preform clandestine operations and destabilize governments. There is a link to the sources under the video. I've looked through them. Many of them are "mainstream" including LA Times, NY Times, etc. They verify what he's saying.

Also, ANY foreign aid in general is usually absorbed by the highest levels of government. The book "The Dictator's Handbook: Why Bad Behavior is Almost Always Good Politics" goes into several examples where democratic companies use foreign aid to reinforce autocratic governments for resource extraction.

I'm not spreading "misinformation," I'm just spreading information. Stop using Doublespeak.

Did America voted in an enemy as their president????

Entirely possible:

"The former head of Kazakhstan’s intelligence service, Alnur Mussayev, recently claimed in a Facebook post that Donald Trump was recruited by the KGB in 1987, when the 40-year-old real-estate mogul first visited Moscow."

https://thehill.com/opinion/international/5162890-assessing-...

Entirely feasible and yet I can’t imagine any kompromat from a visit to Moscow - sexual or financial - hanging over Trumps head today.

You don’t need kompromat if you are the FSB. The carrot is your family gets to join the oligarch club, which has always been a fascination for Trump ever since he managed to piss away most of the fortune he inherited.

The stick is that we will kill your children and everyone you care about if you turn your back on us. You too, if it’s not hard, but we don’t even care at that point.

The FSB shares that kind of reach with the USA and Isreal only on the global stage, and they have made it into a principal resource for projecting influence.

It's not about Trump. The FBI was pretty sure that the Russians hacked both the DNC and RNC servers in the leadup to the 2016 election, but strangely, we only got to see the DNC's dirty laundry.

It seems likely that the entire GOP is a captive asset of Putin. If not, it's hard to imagine what they would do differently.

If this is how we are finally defeated as a world power, it's hard to say anything but "Well played, I guess."

I personally dont think Trump works for FSB/KGB (he is just naturally attracted to russias authoritarianism) but I guess if you had kompromat on someone back then and pressured them to commit treason then it does not matter what they did back then in the first place because the action of betreaying your country would in itself be kompromat: Keep on cooperating or we will everyone you committed treason.

I bet that is how they get many people hooked. Commit one treason for money and after that you own them because you know they committed treason.

Think for a second. What motivation would the KGB have to tell the American people that Trump is a KGB asset?

Wrong answers only! Go

I mean doesn't help that he continues to spout Russia propaganda and seems to support Russia's interests over America's. At this point it doesn't matter because America is destabilized anyway.

Youre so right!

The KGB is a truth-seeking agent with a mandate to not lie

The KGB wants to help us help ourselves

The KGB wants us to know we’re beaten

Haha, it’s really funny that people will believe this guy. You have to have an IQ three standard deviations below to be convinced that your opponent is your best source of information.

This is a nonsensical question. The KGB doesn't exist anymore. The people talking are former Soviets but aren't Russians.

Once a Marine always a Marine

Even if you've effectively defected to another country as these guys have?

Americans have a long history of convincing themselves that their president is a Russian agent

Really? I don't remember that. When was the last example?

Certainly the Republican presidents never came under such suspicion.

Eisenhower was accused of being a communist. Look up John Birch Society.

This is exactly what I was thinking of but could not remember the name of that society

Good point, but those guys were complete psychos. They had zero actual grounds for suspicion compared to the behavior Trump has exhibited, over and over, in plain sight.

A the techbros cost cutting to their desired their “cleansing fire” to rid the world of the unworthy low net worth individuals.

Trump told a room packed with people he was going to make it so they didn't have to vote again. They just didn't realize he was going to achieve it by cutting off all their healthcare so they die

A fascinating thing has been discovering that the US is single-handedly responsible for a raft of world improvements on its own. Despite being cast as the villain, it turns out the US government was responsible for so much of significance.

But America was asked to leave things alone, and perhaps we should. If the US was the only thing standing between order and chaos and they want chaos: give them chaos.

> But America was asked to leave things alone

By whom?

The US are both, one hand chaos, one hand order.

Remember Escobar payed for hospitals to be built.

Nobody is 100% evil.

But now the lose this balance.

enlightened centrism really needs to be stopped, this "logic" helps nobody

Your comment is logically fallacious. Instead of addressing the substance of their argument you attack a straw man because their opinion doesn't align with yours. The fact that it isn't one extreme or the other is of no consequence to its validity; your dislike for it is based strictly on its nuance, not whether it holds up, and that makes no sense. They even capitulated by saying

> But now the lose this balance.

and it still wasn't good enough for you. In case it isn't clear enough: I'm not defending "enlightened centrism" (whatever that is) so much as pointing out that your reasoning is flawed to the point of adding negative value to the discussion. Please review HN Guidelines [1], particularly the part about comments.

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

> Instead of addressing the substance of their argument you attack a straw man

The substance of their argument was to say "nobody is 100% evil". It's a platitude that clarifies nothing and helps nobody. Everyone has a redeeming quality, so what? How does pointing out that nobody is 100% evil change the bigger picture? Does it offer any moral resolution, especially for the victims of their evil?

> But now the lose this balance.

Honestly I did not know what to make of this sentence

But neither does your dismissal of OP’s point help those people either. The damage has already been done. This is an internet comment thread at best.

Understanding that people aren’t 100% evil also helps you understand “how are ANY of the locals around him ok with this guy being in charge?” Because it helps to see the next one coming.

>If the US was the only thing standing between order and chaos and they want chaos: give them chaos.

hmmm US brought quite a bit of chaos with decades of forever wars. All refugees in Europe and US you see - all created by the USA's wars.

The world indeed will only benefit if USA starts caring more about its own people and infrastructure, instead of toppling regimes halfway around the world

Trump offered to stop funding Ukraine and apparently his act of greatest evil was to get out of a war.

That is really weird wording.

How about this: trump wants to stop funding Ukraine and apparently his act of greatest evil is letting a democratic nation succumb to the russian totalitarian aggressor after 3 years of valiant resistance

I thought the refugees were because of the US’s forever wars. That’s fine. We can get out and the Europeans can clean up their own business.

You are showing your biases and misinformation:

> A fascinating thing has been discovering

What is fascinating is that some people are cheering for the destruction of these institutions while a month ago they didn't even know they existed, while other people (or sometimes even those same people) depend on these institutions

> single-handedly

oof

> Despite being cast as the villain

Who are you talking about? Why do americans have this sense that everybody hates them? Is this american exceptionalism?

> But America was asked to leave things alone

As someone else pointed out, by who? (Putin)

> give them chaos.

Is it not clear yet, that america is bringing chaos upon itself?

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