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Orion cannot support uBlock Origin completely either. I know that Orion allows the extension to be installed (I have done it too), but it only has partial support.

Quoting from a reply in a discussion on the Orion Feedback site from a few months ago (November 2024):

> " uBO is not supported on iOS due to Apple limitations."

[1]: https://orionfeedback.org/d/9145-ublock-origin-not-existent-...

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Is the partial support only on iOS? Because iOS is a rather special case. Personally I don't count iOS versions of browsers as even being the same software.

As far as I can tell, Ublock Origin in Orion on iOS is way better than any other Adblock extension for Safari

When the platform itself limits the browsers then it's more a platform discussion than about what each of the browsers do on the platform.

The problem with support on iOS is that each browser is forced to be a skin for Safari and Safari only supports Safari Web Extensions, which are MV3-like, hence the platform limitation. The EU law may allow a browser to release in that region but Apple placed such heavy requirements and restrictions to do so none have actually been approved. I haven't seen a clear answer if less limited extension access itself would result in not being approved by Apple.

Browser vendors are somewhat responsible for this confusion by pretending to have a version of their browser for iOS. If they were honest with their app names instead of lying for marketing points then the blame would go to Apple where it belongs.

I am using Orion on iOS with uBO for two years and UBO works well enough for me. There is the odd website that won’t load in Orion so I switch to Safari, which I never use, and the amount of ads that are presented in Safari reassures me that uBO in Orion is working.

I've just tested it and while the ubo extension can be installed, it does not work at all.

I use brave browser and nextdns to block ads on ios now.

The ubo extension does work in orion, but I remember having to go somewhere deep into settings to make it actually be enabled. I don't remember exactly how I did it but eventually after a few restarts of the browser I got it working.

I did compare against other adblock systems on ios and found it to be the best option, as other adblocks either gave broken webpages or just didn't work at all.

Are you sure you're not just using Orion's built-in content blocker? I realized I had the uBO extension installed on iOS but it wasn't doing anything because I also had Orion's ad blocking enabled.

I have tried UBO on Orion on iOS and it does not work. It is definitely installed. It definitely thinks that it's working. But the moment you switch the default Orion blocker off - the ads appear. And uBO just says "Blocked on this page 0", no matter the page. If you actually did manage to get it to work - that would be golden, would really appreciate it if you shared how you made it work.

To be quite frank - I haven't manage to get _any_ of the extensions (that I would like to have) to work in Orion. They all just silently fail in different ways.

> the amount of ads that are presented in Safari

First, consider NextDNS to DNS adblock all your apps.

For in the browser, for those who do use Safari, consider 1Blocker, otherwise consider AdGuard Pro.

Sounds like Orion will do the job on macOS though, so that's at least one platform with an alternative. :)

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