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Comment by handoflixue | Hacker News Reader

> remove any wording along the lines of "Firefox will never sell your data to advertisers"

You mean wording like this?

""Mozilla doesn’t sell data about you (in the way that most people think about “selling data“), and we don’t buy data about you. Since we strive for transparency, and the LEGAL definition of “sale of data“ is extremely broad in some places, we’ve had to step back from making the definitive statements you know and love."

Which is contained in both the link you provided, and on their official Privacy FAQ: https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/privacy/faq/

I'm really confused how you can possibly claim that they removed the wording when it's right there for you.

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Are we reading the same thing? They removed:

> We believe the internet is for people, not profit. Unlike other companies, we don’t sell access to your data.

and instead there's vague weaseling

> doesn’t sell data about you (in the way that most people think about “selling data“)

I'm not like most people, I am a bit stupid and have a very low threshold for what selling my data is.

> Since we strive for transparency, and the LEGAL definition of “sale of data“ is extremely broad in some places, we’ve had to step back from making the definitive statements you know and love.

You can either have 2.5% of users who know why they are using your browser and are willing to make a donation or you can have nothing while we use a fork with your telemetry ripped out.

Here is the next sentence from that FAQ:

> We still put a lot of work into making sure that the data that we share with our partners (which we need to do to make Firefox commercially viable) is stripped of any identifying information, or shared only in the aggregate, or is put through our privacy preserving technologies (like OHTTP)

So they are sharing your data with partners, commercially. but only in "anonymized" form so its OK?

The only thing they need to do to make Firefox commercially viable is to have me pay them for the browser.

I'd pay $50 yearly if they're willing to just work on the browser and remove their added value services and any telemetry.

What a neat sleight of hand. "We're actually Truly Good, but those annoying lawyers won't let us call ourselves that, so we kind of take that back, but you get the idea right?"

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