Google's Sergey Brin Asks Workers to Spend More Time in the Office
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The only time I consistently pulled 60+ hour weeks, was back in my fresh grad years - where I worked 2 years of that, because I knew the work would lead to better opportunities. Should come as no surprise that me, and practically all my other junior colleagues were all under 25, single, and had no kids or family. After two years 90% had moved on to greener pastures, or enrolled MBA program.
In professional fields like finance, consulting, law, etc. it is accepted - precisely because everyone assumes it will only be a 1-2-3 year ordeal. Maybe big tech companies look at it the same way. But it would sure suck to be a dedicated employee that decides to stay, and expected to work those kinds of hours...burnout will come sooner than later.
Why say something like this?
Point is, Google seems to be somewhat trying to get back their mojo and get rid of their retirement home reputation, at least as far as their AI products are concerned.
I am sure entitled googlers will be vocal though.
They became the oligarchs that now run the country? These days it seems America is pursuing the same dream.
I get you don't like the policy (assuming it is even the official policy.) How's this related to having an excited team working on an important project? Are you suggesting there is something wrong with people who work hard on a mission they believe in? How does this tie fates of Russian billionaires in any shape or form? Are Gemini googlers revolting?
Man worth 100+ Billion complains he should be worth more, and that the grunts should have to make him worth more at all costs.
How is anyone who doesn't want to do that entitled?
If only these pesky meat machines would work 50% harder for 50% more than fulltime, all the time, he could have his silicone bot that will work 100% of the time.
> “A number of folks work less than 60 hours and a small number put in the bare minimum to get by,” he wrote. “This last group is not only unproductive but also can be highly demoralizing to everyone else.”
1) Managers who regularly insist their way is the only correct way
2) Low compensation/raises/bonuses
3) On-call combined with not addressing the problems causing middle of the night issues
4) A deluge of statements from upper management that make everyone else in the room roll their eyes into the back of their head
By that standard I think a lot of us could already be putting in CEO hours, we just didn't think to count a bunch of our personal activities as work time.
lol. In my heart I knew this, but I didn't think anyone would ever self-report like this.
Firstly, I don't think it is, so I tend to assume that they're just being hype-guys for staff/investors, but assuming I'm wrong, it seems very weird to suggest that the difference between success or failure in bootstrapping AGI hinges on burning through a generation of AI hires, vs working them at a reasonable pace.
What does Sergey mean by this?
This feedback indeed substantiate Sergey's point that such bare-minimum people really do destroy the morale for everyone else. I certainly would have felt that had I were at Google on a critical exciting project that the company deeply cared about to the degree that a founder was actively participating in.
If the ship sinks to irrelevance, it will sink for all Googlers. In fact, the top billionaire will be the least affected.
It’s a leaders job to motivate people to work those hours, and create an environment where it is worthwhile, to just say “work more” sounds like he thinks management doesn’t have a role to play.
In fact almost definition ally, if you’re people aren’t working enough, that’s a management failure. So who is he telling?
But since over 40 hours is overtime, make it more like pay us 2x as much.
I'm sure some people would consider it then.
But until then stop asking for free work in return for nothing
P.S. I am quite confident if any of those people join OpenAI or Meta, they have to easily work at least 2x Google. At least.
If you find yourself aligning with billionaires making completely unreasonable demands, unless you are one of those billionaires yourself, I think you are fully drinking the kool aid and should seriously reevaluate your life .