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What's crazy is that Firefox on Debian has been nagging me for weeks that I won't be able to use it after March 14th?

I have never seen those nag screens in Firefox, near the bookmarks toolbar. I think that is working around Debian's policies, IIUC. I have never had software on Debian nag me to update

It seems like this is under the guise of some DRM updates, and the like.

So I'm supposed to update, and then they apply a new Terms and Conditions that I didn't agree to?

And sell my personal data, I guess because there's a big market in AI now.

Also Firefox seems increasingly buggy -- I have had to switch to Chromium for 2 particular sites, so I guess I need to find a new browser ...

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This reminds me of the Twitter thing where they asked for your phone number for security purposes, and then used it for advertising.

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/may/25/twitter-u...

I think Firefox is forcing updates ostensibly for one reason, but the real reason is because they found a market for data, and want to apply a new T&C

>Firefox seems increasingly buggy

Yes, seems. I think web developers are increasingly neglecting testing on it.

I haven’t found anything yet that fails just on Firefox.

But I’ve noticed I have ublock-origin installed on Firefox and when the 2 sites that I had issues with started working when that was disabled…

> Also Firefox seems increasingly buggy -- I have had to switch to Chromium for 2 particular sites, so I guess I need to find a new browser ...

Is it Firefox that's buggy or those websites that only test on Chrome?

In my experience it is usually something related to cookies that work on Chrome and not in Firefox, and in those cases I find hard to blame Firefox.

Yet, sometimes you need to use those websites fore a reason. Firefox should perhaps make it easier so users don't need to fall back to a different browser.

If it's related to cookies is it any more difficult than the two clicks to disable enhanced tracking protection for that site?

Firefox on Debian is not nagging me. Out of curiosity what reason does it give for not being able to use it in the future?

Which version of each are you running? I use esr these days (I don't remember why I switched though).

I am getting them on openbsd, I assumed it was going to be some sort of certificate issue, I was going to update, but with these recent reports of Mozilla getting ready to turn full bore into a ad company, I might just wait until after March 14th and see what happens.

What is especially funny/insulting, is there is a click here to update button, and I am like "there is approximately a 0% chance that will actually work on openbsd".

update I looked it up, they say it is a certificate issue. https://support.mozilla.org/kb/root-certificate-expiration

I got the same message on an older version of Ubuntu where Firefox isn't installed via snap. On my main machine with Ubuntu / firefox snap I do not get this msg.

Probably because snaps autoupdates without user approval.

I get it on my desnapified Ubuntu, but Ubuntu says firefox is up-to-date, and the "download update" button downloads firefox-135.0.1.tar.xz but there are ZERO docs on how to update my current firefox. And running the unzipped firefox executable gives me a message that it can't find my current config, so I guess that means no addons (ublock, privacy badger, container-tabs), bookmarks, or config.

I'm taking this as a good reason to wait for an official Ubuntu update, tho, if this thread is accurate, it looks like all I'll need to keep my current version running will be new root certs.

Or a new browser, unfortunately.

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