Andrew Tate and brother leave Romania for US after travel ban lifted

Based on how intensely they despised the thought of voting dem, I got the feeling the republican candidate could literally have been Satan and they'd still vote rep.

I too gave up trying to understand.

And I agree, they did not. They ran a late, modified, campaign that deep-down assumed enough people were "post-Trump" that it was inevitable.

Trump ran a campaign knowing what Trump knows personally: people can be manipulated with needful things.

I guess they thought "not having a candidate who would destroy the country" was enough of a thing to get votes. But it wasn't, so here we are with a president who's destroying the country.

They literally are the problem. Women don't like them because, surprise surprise, angry young men don't have much to offer.

These angry young men are lonely because they refuse to see themselves as the problem. They make a pass at one or two girls and get mildly rejected and utterly reject modern reality, instead of doing what their grandparents did which was usually try again, or try someone else, or just otherwise persist in attempting to be valuable to women in general. There are plenty of women who actually want the tradwife lifestyle, where they stay at home and raise a family like it's 1940.

But even those women don't want to be abused, or manipulated, or treated like a lesser person because they don't bring home a paycheck, or get refused basic medical rights because some old white guys can't read the bible and just listen to whatever their asshole pastor with no formal training says on Sunday.

People keep saying the democrats should offer these people something they want, but what they want (as evidenced from voting for trump) is fundamentally incompatible with democracy and individual freedoms of women. They usually want a world in which they are valuable just by virtue of being men, which they believe the past held, but they completely ignore the blunt reality that in the past, men like them just died alone and sad.

There is less sex and drugs and rock and roll nowadays because people socialize less in general, thanks to social media scratching the same itch and preventing people from being forced to go out and touch grass and meet strangers to fulfill that basic biological need.

Instead, these lonely men blame the liberalization of women, and some imaginary "feminist" movement that wants to harm men, actively. Zero sum thinking.

Democrats cannot offer them what they want, because what they want is lies.

1) putting up a flag to find somewhere comfortable without an extradition treaty where his views are normal

2) seeking narcissistic supply from an easily identified demographic: angry, wealthy young muslim men in repressive countries. He's stylised himself like that: like the wealthy son of an exiled Emirati.

He's a malignant narcissist: broken, cold, and lonely inside in a way that only adoration can fix.

As it goes, Tate shares with Musk and Trump a genuinely tragic origin story of adoring a bullying, abusive, cold, father. (With one likely additional common factor: neurodivergence. Autism in Tate's case, AuDHD in Musk's, ADHD in Trump's)

The paradox of this world is that if Trump, Musk and Tate sat down, talked and cried together about the abuse and coldness of their early years -- their utterly broken childhood -- then masculine culture and the world might get somewhere.