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> Often he and the hostess, Bernice Philbin, would be the first two people there, and they would have a polite conversation before Irving took his place in his booth—the first half circle to your left as you came in—and ordered breakfast: scrambled eggs back in the days when people ate eggs, and, more recently, banana and granola with skim milk.

TIL that my last 30+ years of egg eating has been a faux pas.

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The article is from 1993. If you are old enough to remember that time, it was indeed when official nutritionist advice was a complete failure. Eggs were advised against because it was thought their high cholesterol levels raised blood cholesterol, which is false for most people who consume a moderate amount of eggs. This is the time during which fat was demonized (anyone remember SnackWell's???), the "foot pyramid" was the rule of the day that was based on eating lots of bread, pasta and carbs.

I actually liked their devil's food cookie things. And after a quick glimpse at the internet, I am not alone in that. It's probably the major thing they're known for now.

I don't remember a foot pyramid. There was the food pyramid, the $64000 pyramid, but nothing about feet. Just to have fun with an obvious simple typo

The 90s foot pyramid explained, in the 90s: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCO-SBPTF5E

Fat is still bad in excess, you are just stuck in a different meme cycle where Americans pretend it doesn’t matter and surely couldn’t have anything to do with the rampant obesity.

I don't know of any memes where people say it's OK to eat fat in excess or pretend "it doesn't matter". Even the extreme low carb diets aren't about eating fat in excess - if anything, people on those diets tend to lose weight because (a) not being able to eat any carbs gets monotonous fast and (b) fat induces a feeling of fullness, so people eat fewer total calories.

> I don't know of any memes where people say it's OK to eat fat in excess or pretend "it doesn't matter".

Hang around on Reddit for a day or two and you'll see them. Or heck, remember the Atkins diet, which was explicitly advertised as "you can eat as much fat as you want"?

Atkins doesn't say that, at all, and then explicitly mentioned extreme low carb diets in my comment.

> Atkins doesn't say that, at all

The meme version of it does, and their official website gets pretty close - fat is unrestricted, it's fine to eat as much fat as you have an appetite for, it's fine if a large proportion of your calorie intake is saturated fat. I guess "to excess" is subjective, but Atkins certainly says that fat consumption levels that respected medical authorities say are dangerous are fine.

Atkins theory was if people restricted their carb intake they would naturally eat a lot less calories. Because counting calories is difficult, the easier thing to do was just restrict foods to ones that were low in carbs

Try eating as much fat as you can, without any carbs to go with it. It's not going to be much.

It doesnt' matter in the sense that like 80% of what's in the typical American diet is far worse. All that fat that got removed was replaced with salt and corn syrup.

Funnily enough this was also going on…

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tobacco_Master_Settlement_Ag...

This might have been during the "eggs are bad for you" part of the egg cycle.

So it's kind of a tongue-in-cheek jab at contemporary cultural mores.

My favorite part was when eggs were bad, then were good, then were bad again. Then people stopped talking about them at all.

It was a very informative time for me personally.

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