If too many people comment on this, it will get removed from the front page again. I realize this is a bit hypocritical by commenting this.
Edit: Per Dang, they have been flagged, but HN has opted to turn off flagging for YC companies.
> It set off the flamewar detector. Moderators haven't touched it, except that we turned off the user flags on the story. Otherwise it would be displaying [flagged] at the top.
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43170850
This exact tech is already commonplace in industry, but no one is trying to find an industry wide solution, just taking cheap pot shots that the nth startup doing the same thing.
If you don’t like what this startup is doing, build something better instead of virtue signalling here.
Are these acts the same?
Blowing up a building because you're a mobster, and you're "sending a message", is different from a demolition crew doing the same to make way for a new building.
You should really rethink what you're saying. An act is a wholesome, contextualize thing. It does not live in a vacuum.
By your measure, a sexual predator grabbing a woman's vagina and a doctor examing a female patient are identical.
This is a broken mental map of the world.
Mens rea exists because reasons.
(This is also why surgeons generally request a statement of consent to medical procedures from the patient, where that's tractable, or by a representative --- parent, guardian, someone granted power of attorney, etc --- where the patient themselves is incapable of consent. There are still some loose edges, but this itself is a significant though not sole distinction between the two roles noted.)
Wow - did you come up with that or is it a quote? That's a great line.
(this is apropos of nothing related to the current story - it just strikes my interests)
I remember the organisational observation making the rounds ... maybe a decade ago (I recall it probably being on Google+ back when that was A Thing), and though this all but certainly isn't the original, it's strongly similar in sentiments:
Company values are invisible – what's rewarded and punished shouldn't (2023)
<https://www.fearlessculture.design/blog-posts/your-culture-i...>
And of course HN had a similar submission 8 years ago, though w/o discussion:
"Culture Is the Behavior You Reward and Punish" (2017)
<https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13751865>
<https://jocelyngoldfein.com/culture-is-the-behavior-you-rewa...>
Similar notions are that you are the average of the five people you spend the most time with (of questionable veracity, though fairly high popularity), see: <https://quoteinvestigator.com/2022/08/08/five-people/>.
There's the notion that a person, particularly a creative person (artist, musician, author, programmer, experimenter/tinkerer, tailor, soldier, spy, wups, wrong espionage meme) is what they can't not do.
Going back to G+, an observation I'd had on follow + blocking behaviour there was that social network landscapes are defined by the pathways along with information flows with greater or lesser impedence. G+ had a fairly strong block in which a block action (unilateral or reciprocated) meanth that neither party could directly see or interact with the others' content, at least whilst authenticated to the system. (The fact that logging out permitted visibility of otherwise public content meant of course that "blocking" was not an effective mechanism for preventing some adversarial relation from finding out what you were posting so long as that activity was public.
But both in terms of blocks by/against myself, and between other accounts, there was an interesting and somewhat fractured state of discussions particularly in what I've termed "salon" threads: a reasonably gregarious host, with diligent thread hygiene, who tended to attract a broad range of participants and lively discussion. The blocking actions would tend to segment that discussion in ways I still find fascinating.
Which is unrelated to the original comment and observation, though it comes up in context, at least here and now ;-)
And no, this issue isn't something you can out-compete. Authority figures notably love surveillance - no matter if it's your government, a tech megacorp or a manager at a factory. There's no alternative solution that provides the same hit of power and control like surveillance. Social pushback is the only remaining way.