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'Everybody is looking at their phones,' says man freed after 30 years in prison

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Commenters are criticizing the man for knowing that cell phones exist and for being surprised by it.

I bought smartphones before the iPhone.

I stood in line for four hours to buy the first iPhone (never again).

I still use an iPhone.

Yet, I am regularly surprised by how often everyone is looking at their phones.

(Context: I live in a rural area outside a metro area and don’t go there often, except for work.)

When their kid is at a crowded city park, the parent is glued to their phone.

When their kid is performing, the parent is glued to their phone, their thumb scrolling.

During any break from activity, they whip out their phones.

I used to be skeptical about the claim that devices contribute to societal brain rot through dopamine hits. However, the more I pay attention, the more I notice it. Even though I'm quite disciplined, I still catch myself instinctively pulling out my phone.

I can easily see this man having that sincere thought. You know smartphones exist, but you have no idea how much they are used.

I truly believe we are at a stage where one could argue that smartphones qualify as cybernetics.

1. Insofar as no apps on phone, minimal social media usage at all, and willful focus on a return to my 70s/80s roots where I embrace active boredom doing nothing.

I did a week without my phone and it was astonishing how uncomfortable I was with… doing nothing. The act of just waiting for anything made me instinctively reach for the phone and when it wasn’t there… it was uncomfortable to not get that hit. Even after a week, it hadn’t gone away.

Addicted is right.

#sentfrommyiphone

Before smartphones, I carried a book wherever I went for just this reason. I was bullied mercilessly for it, but didn’t care - that’s preferable to being bored.

>>I carried a book wherever I went for just this reason.

This was considered a respectable way of telling people to not disturb you only a while back.

Ye. I mean it is bad for us as individuals and collective to constantly have an internet connected computer available.

I don't know what we should do about it though. Like any cure would be to authoritarian for my taste. Hope for culture change? Like how fronting the TV as the center of your family life at home is not hip anymore.

What happens when nearly everyone is suddenly addicted to something?

I remember much talk of "internet addiction" in the late 1990s, but rarely hear much of it anymore

I guess thise articles dissappeared when those people did not rack up huge telephone bills.

You'd have to have some non abstract damage to write simple articles. Otherwise the journalist need to do a deep dive in the victim's life to explain the damage.

Why should there be something plausible to “do about it”?

That doesn’t seem like the default for most things in the universe.

I am proposing that we should hope that we just sort it out without doing anything. I think that is like claiming that there is not some nice fix.

I for example am burned out on scrolling feeds since I consumed way too much memes on like some meme rating feed site I don't even remember the name of, before feeds was a thing.

So maybe people might just cut down on it by them self?

Is that a question for me, or for yourself?

It is an open question.

Was that feeling happening constantly at any time or only during the time you didn’t have anything else to do? I do plenty of physical exercise during the day, and I don’t like to take with me the phone (because it’s big). When I go out for a walk I don’t take my phone with me (I walk around 40 min/day). When I read I don’t have my phone near me. Now, when I have done all the things I wanted to do during the day and it’s time to sit on the sofa, yep, I take my phone and I would get bored without it I think.

Mainly when unoccupied, yeah. Brain didn't like not having something engaging with it.

I did a month, it was actually surprisingly easily. The worst part was actually pissing off a bunch of people that couldn't reach me easily any longer.

This describes craving, which is only one of the addiction criteria

Even when people are not looking at the phone, they need to know it's nearby.

Some young people feel anxiety without their phones to the level they don't go out even for a few minutes without a phone. They still lose their phone inside their homes, but they feel comfortable because they know it's nearby. But if you are asking someone to come to help carry something, takes max 2 minutes, and they refuse until they find their phone. It is same for taking out the trash, and visiting the nearby shop (5 min max).

> Even when people are not looking at the phone, they need to know it's nearby.

Ugh..I felt like I was on the high ground until I read that.

I can't pay for anything without my phone.

Seems like a silly self-imposed limitation.

Wish I could make an NFC implant and pay like that. But probably not in this decade, since that would require merchants to have an eyelid scanner or something similar, so that people can't pay with your hand while you're not looking.

Or just carry a debit card?

Yikes. Sounds reckless. You don’t keep emergency cash?

In case my bank goes down? No.

In case you need money and you can’t access it…

A power outage caused by a disaster. Lost phone and card. Any situation where you can’t ask the bank for permission to push a payment.

Be careful putting so much trust into institutions, especially in the year of our lord two thousand and twenty five, jesus

Or perhaps if your phone goes down.

It wouldn't make sense to keep emergency cash in case my phone goes down because my money wouldn't go down with the phone.

Huh? If your phone goes down you can't pay for stuff, if you have cash you still can.

Oh you mean like if the battery runs out? I just make sure it never does. I thought they meant like if I lose my phone, but in that case I could just go home and grab my card and pay with my card.

Do you never travel? Go camping? Spend more than 12 hours away from a charging location? Seems so stressful for a minor benefit :/

Unfortunately I don't.

So you're hobbling yourself to a phone for why exactly? Carrying a spare $40 makes your wallet too heavy?

I don't even have a wallet. Also, a big reason to avoid cash is that you never know who was its previous owner, and whether they washed their hands. Unless you can somehow get factory new cash.

Wow you're like the archetypal preferred corporate consumer. 100% voluntary opt in to being completely dependent on specific corporate products.

> Also, a big reason to avoid cash is that you never know who was its previous owner, and whether they washed their hands.

This is silly. By this same reasoning you should never touch a door handle in public.

That's correct. You should never touch a public door handle with your bare hands. And often you don't have to. Many doors would be opened for you if you just pushed them, and some would even open themselves on their own if they saw that you wanted to get through. But, hold on, let me blow your mind even further: you should also never eat food that fell on the ground, even if it was less than 3 seconds.

> That's correct. You should never touch a public door handle with your bare hands.

Honestly that's a miserable way to live life IMO, being afraid to that extent.

How old are you if you don't mind sharing? I'm wondering to what extent COVID may have impacted the development of your views here.

> let me blow your mind even further: you should also never eat food that fell on the ground,

Yeah, not really comparable to opening a door lol

> Honestly that's a miserable way to live life IMO, being afraid to that extent.

I know right. Ignorance is bliss.

> How old are you if you don't mind sharing? I'm wondering to what extent COVID may have impacted the development of your views here.

I'm 19, but no worries, when COVID happened I was not affected because I rarely went outside.

> I know right. Ignorance is bliss.

No ignorance here, quite the opposite. When you realize how low the odds are of the worst case scenarios you use to justify your behavior and do a cost/benefit analysis you'll find it isn't in favor of that level of mild paranoia.

> I'm 19, but no worries, when COVID happened I was not affected

Being afraid to touch door handles in public and being as attached to a smartphone as you are would indicate the pandemic did indeed affect your development. The question is to what extent is your development typical.

Even if you ignore the potential implications to your health, realising that dozens of homeless drug addicts touch that very same door handle every day justifies a small detour to find a better door, or at the very least using your sleeve to avoid direct contact. Also, I did leave my phone in the house when taking out trashes, so can’t say I’m that attached.

> Even if you ignore the potential implications to your health, realising that dozens of homeless drug addicts touch that very same door handle every day justifies a small detour to find a better door, or at the very least using your sleeve to avoid direct contact.

I'm not going to argue about door handles, I'm just going to point out this is objectively not normal, as in common, behavior - and that you think this does seem to have been due to you growing up while COVID was a threat.

> Also, I did leave my phone in the house when taking out trashes, so can’t say I’m that attached.

That might be setting the bar unreasonably low.

> I'm 19…

Say no more

Do you need your wallet to take out the trash?

Ironically, I was taking out trash a couple hours ago, and left my phone in the house, and somebody called me, and when I got back they no longer needed me.

Sounds like a win? Why did they even call you if they could sort that out themselves in a few minutes.

I might have won this battle, but chances are I'm gonna lose the war.

Serious Q, what are most people doing with their phones so much? Social media? Work? Watching rando YT vids?

My wife's vice seems to FB, but unsure if that's what everyone else is doing.

Not scientific, but when I snoop, I most often see the thumb scrolling and various incarnations of the video shorts apps like TikTok, YouTube Shorts, Instagram, and Snapchat.

Probably any of the above except work? It's indeed a tool for any kind of distraction you want/whichever road you take (i.e. whichever app you open) you'll find said distraction. HN counts too. (Ironically I'm typing this as I sit on the toilet.).

I agree on HN, though I think it's markedly different as it moves slow enough that you can just check it once or twice a day and get most everything you want. Whereas a lot of other social media is an unlimited feed of everything, ephemerally, and can make you feel like that if you blink, you'll have missed something.

I do check HN from my phone, typically in the mornings and night when I have downtime and don't want to watch TV or read a book. But I can't say I've ever been at a park, bar, or airport lounge and just itching to see what was going on HN this second.

I check work slack a lot tbh.

Doomscrolling and making myself miserable.

Yeah it truly is astonishing how constant and ubiquitous. Occasionally I'll be out somewhere and I'll have that moment of clarity and just notice it and see it for what it is. That's usually only when my phone is dead or not on me though :\

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I just spent several months helping someone who got released after 40 years. He got used to smartphones very quickly. He'd seen them in movies and TV, and they have tablets in most prisons these days to download music and movies and do texting.

Had to teach him how to pay with a debit card and PIN for everything as that wasn't a thing before he went in.

Humans are very adaptable.

Indeed, while still in jail, this man surely knew smartphones existed. And, of course, basic usage of a smartphone is easy; it wouldn't be addictive if it was hard.

The point of this (low quality) article was that, after 30 years far from the usual life, the man points out juste 2 changes during the period: "Everybody is looking at their phones" and a 2023 wildfire. He knew people had smartphones, but I guess he didn't not know to what extent. It's a/the most important part of the life for many people.

Last week, I saw a couple riveted to their screens while walking their dog on the river's edge. The woman didn't raise her eyes when she caught and threw the stick the dog had brought. I wondered how the dog could be so obviously excited, despite the lack of attention.

> I wondered how the dog could be so obviously excited, despite the lack of attention.

I don't know how strong your prey drive is, but for me, chasing a thrown stick and returning it to the boss is good fun.

The dog fully understands that the phone is the humans stick.

Yeah that’s true. Movies and TV would not be very engaging if the characters were doing real life stuff like walking around face down barely aware of anyone around them.

So we depict this romantic view where the phone can do everything we need but nobody is addicted to it

stick is life

The UI for smartphones was also designed for the lowest common denominator. It’s so intuitive that we laughed at my toddler as she tried to swipe on a physical picture frame to see the next photo.

I would imagine it would be much harder to adapt to T9 input. My boomer parent stubbornly refused to adopt cell phones early on and that mindset crippled them as the world pivoted to apps and touchscreens.

Even I, who spent 10 years using T9 at a very speedy clip on a daily basis, has trouble with T9 now when I occasionally have to use it. We forget how tricky some of these things actually were until we got used to them.

Sci fi authors imagined future worlds where reality would be masked by drugs.

The drugs have arrived. They just take the form of phone and computer screens which keep games, forums, but even selective news true or fake in front of our eyes, sometimes BS office memos. We don't know how to make drugs alter our vision, mood, perception of the world to outright provide a "better" one. But we don't really need them. We know how to achieve that with screens and software. (And for the rest, SSRIs and such can alter our mood without even bothering to change the stimulus.)

It is surprising when you look up (from your screen) in the train and see everyone captured by their own reality - which is our new shared reality? Kind of? Pretty close for sci-fi.

The BS office memo asks us to justify our usefulness by Monday fist thing or report to reactor shielding (too soon? too soon.)

“All right already. Let’s see. Give me a second.” She scratches her chin while a wild animal screams within the Save-On. “I know—I remember when I first woke up how people kept on trying to impress me with how efficient the world had become. What a weird thing to brag about, eh? Efficiency. I mean, what’s the point of being efficient if you’re only leading an efficiently blank life?” I egg her on. “For example?”

…

“People didn’t evolve. I mean, the world became faster and smarter and in some ways cleaner. Like cars—cars didn’t smell anymore. But people stayed the same. They actually—wait—what’s the opposite of progressed?”

Excerpt From Girlfriend in a Coma Douglas Coupland This material may be protected by copyright.

I think a society was just not meant to be this connected. When a brain is this hyperconnected you get problems and the world hyperconnected becomes sick.

>A hyperconnected brain is a brain with increased connectivity between regions, or hubs. This can be a response to neuropathology, such as autism, depression, or schizophrenia.

>Hyperconnectivity in the brain can contribute to epilepsy by increasing the likelihood of seizures. This can occur due to a number of factors, including injury, disease progression, and changes in brain structure.

The world is in one big epileptic fit right now due to tech hyperconnectivity and I’m unsure how to fix that.

Perhaps in the future, governments could put strict caps on the amount of data one can download. For example, 1GB and no Internet for a person for the rest of the month.

This is some kind of sadistic dark humor, right?

The road to hell is paved with good intentions

Not sure if serious or making a point

There is no meant. We are evolving into what we create.

I hate my phone. For years I've been mad at the content on the device - the interruptions - but I realized that was all misplaced.

I hate the device and ecosystem itself.

Felt right to finally figure that out

I know that feeling.

It takes some self discipline and effort to use our phones in non-unhealthy ways. I'm still working on it myself: to configure software, notifications, reduce mindless scrolling.

I'm naturally curious and so I often find myself asking an AI chat bot about things: sometimes about random stuff but more often my AI chats are aligned with my learning goals, and I love that proximity to knowledge. I guess this could become a somewhat unhealthy behavior, but I don't consider it a problem yet.

For me the most important thing is to be mindful of the power and addictive tendency of our phones, and crucially for me: to use the phone as a tool, especially for creative endeavors.

The sad thing is that children are forced by the school to register google, facebook, and share stuff there. One can say that it is a matter of willpower, but I'd say that it is more like forcing them to carry drugs around and expect them to stay away from it.

Genuine question: why didn't you just turn notifications off and logout/delete yourself from social media?

It's not hard.

The devices are amazing tools, just don't use social media and you'll be fine.

Electronics is an escape for people who don't like talking to other people.

Turns out most of us don't like talking to others.

I definitely don't. I enjoy online interactions way more than face to face.

I don't dislike talking to others. It's just hard for me to say what I want to say at the speed of normal conversation. I write more slowly and carefully, can edit what I've drafted, and check facts too, all before I hit the submit button.

You just need to find the right people to interact with, people who can match your pace and preferred level of articulation. It's not like they don't exist.

I just want to mention that although in general I dislike f2f communication, I'd love to talk about technical stuffs or hear other people passionately talking about technical stuffs. But again most people don't really have the luxury to find the right people to interact with. We weaklings don't control our own fate.

I think a lot of people give up. How many people on reddit or irc who actually get along with each other well organize meetups, or how many people still look for meetups to try and find compatible people?

There is another topic to argue that is whether meetups are really useful or not. A lot of things are "useful" only to the point that they provide certain excitement, like coffee, and then that's it. I mean it's still better than nothing, but converting excitement to productivity is not easy.

I think there is something to positive human experiences that you can't replace online. I get preferring virtual interactions for the reasons you listed, but if you can find the right people to have those with in real life, you get the benefit of emotional connection which can be very rewarding. Connecting with other people is still why you try to have any interactions at all, virtual or not.

I posted something similar to what you said just a few days back although not exactly in those words: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43083345#43085603

1) I would always struggle to interject in time due to slow processing, and 2) I could write better than others because I could edit.

However, this changed / improved over time. And I have a sneaking suspicion that it changed after I had stents placed giving me more oxygen supply. I believe many parts of my life changed around the same time. Not immediately but over the next year or 2, it has now been 9 years. This could just be life eventually connecting all the neurons in the right way, and of course I do not recommend getting stents as an experiment, but I wonder if apart from this being how we are built, there may be fixes (herbs or surgeries) that may be able to improve this.

This is a good point.

This.

I'm a people-watcher. People are so much more interesting to me than a phone.

Sure, people are different.

Parasocial relationships are a thing, later I've been way too fond of Twin Peaks or some streamers, for instance.

I thought the same in HS until I found the right people. Online will never hit the same as a true friend group irl

Electronics are the ultimate distraction. Turns out we really like distracting ourselves.

> I enjoy online interactions way more than face to face.

It means you haven't met the right people yet, and that's a shame. Not just for you but for so many people missing out on the best parts of life.

how do you know your online interactions haven't perverted your taste for talking to other people?

I don't. But I know from childhood I don't enjoy that.

Did any child? I think by the time we die we should have achieved some understanding and love with connecting with other humans by the tools given to us. It might be somewhat uncomfortable but the pros outweigh the cons. For the most part, authentic experiences aren’t digital but the current generation are loosing what is. In my opinion.

Some kids definitely enjoy communicating with other kids way more.

> Turns out most of us don't like talking to others.

But...

> I enjoy online interactions way more than face to face.

...that's still talking to others. Just in a different, er, arena.

No, it isn't, by no definition of the word "talking." It's a lame excuse for persisting in bad behavior.

You can interpret it this way but it is definitely different from f2f talking.

sad!

Why is it sad? I always found having to communicate f2f sad -- less efficient and more friction.

Says this man who's lived 60 years. Don't have to be in prison to notice it's an epidemic.

I've recently tried to get into urban sketching and spending any time observing figures in an urban scene makes this immediately obvious. So many people staring at phones everywhere you got. I'm equally guilty but once you start looking it is quite stark.

I notice it most when the situation is different to my memories.

Earlier this week I took a bus at school ending time. Several children — roughly 8-12 years old — spent their whole journey on their phones.

This is sad to me as the school bus was some of the best memories of my childhood. I don’t even know why particularly, but I think after being in cooped up in school all day we just got to act like fools and joke around on the bus. We even did this thing where we’d run as fast as we could to get the back seats of the bus.

Having typed all that I realized my kid is in a bus free school, we parents are responsible for transportation, and he’ll never even experience it at all. I’m sure he won’t miss it. Was more of a sign of the times for my era than a necessity for a good childhood but, if you’re on a bus with dozens of peers and all glued to your phones, it does feel like some missed opportunities

> we parents are responsible for transportation, and he’ll never even experience it at all. I’m sure he won’t miss it.

Taking a normal city bus home from school was wonderful for me. I think it was the first time I had some independence from my overprotective parents.

I could "miss" the bus, which gave me 15 minutes to look round the Warhammer shop (or similar) before the next bus.

I could more-or-less spontaneously go to a friend's house and phone my parents from there — they wouldn't be left waiting to pick me up from school.

Has this man really been wrongly jailed for 30 years? That's the insane thing here.

yeah they totally glossed over that detail lol. what a tragedy.

I've stayed at a Yoga school for up to 6 months straight.

Best part, all gadgets are locked up in a safe on arrival and returned when you leave.

https://www.yogameditation.com/

If you had any idea about who I am, or how staying at that school works; talk about barking up the wrong tree.

Maybe look into where that hatred comes from, because I'm pretty sure it has nothing to do with me.

“getting used to just how connected people are now.”

Ironically, I think we have never been as lonely and isolated as we are now.

I'm going to be honest, as a bookworm growing up, I feel a little bit of twisted satisfaction from this. I was treated as odd for having my nose in a book all the time. WHO'S THE ODD ONE NOW?

I heard someone say this last week and they never went to prison.

I still can't get used to it. It's totally creepy. Every time I'm out in public, it feels like the old movie Invasion of the Body Snatchers, where 99% of the people have been replaced with alien, but physically exact, replicas. And they're all just zombied out on their phones. It's an addiction that's run through the population completely wild and unaddressed. Often dangerously, scrolling messages while driving 75mph down the freeway. I used to host movie night, but we stopped because 5 minutes into the movie people were just ignoring the movie scrolling Instagram. You can do that at home, guys, jeez.

I don't know if you feel this, but there's also a sort of social pressure where if I'm in a situation and everyone's on their phones, it's hard for me to start up a conversation with someone since they seem 'focused' on whatever they're looking at. So I inevitably take out my own phone.

Keep interrupting them until you break the phone's spell and then ask them if they actually wanna hang out with you.

Just talk at them until they talk with you. Works better than you would think, however crazy you seem at first.

Startup that movie night with the rule that all phones get stored away. You will have a good time

Phones go into a shoebox. Shoebox goes on the shelf. Everyone participates.

Then you face the fallout from the other silent epidemic: everyone thinks they have a reason to be an exception to the rule

And didn’t appear on the front page of the orange site.

Before phones everyone was reading newspapers.

Yep people miss this a lot I think. The commuter trains used to be literally littered with discarded newspapers. Now it is a novelty to see one at all as people read things on their phones instead. People just don't like being bored (funnily enough).

We didn't live in some utopia before smartphones and 3g where everyone was nice and spoke to the person sitting next to each other in genuine conversation for their entire journeys. People were still selfish and rude. If a stranger (cluse is in the word there - strange-er... And that word has been around longer than phones) struck up a conversation with you on the bus or train you changed seat or carriage at the EARLIEST opportunity even then.

I only had my teenage years before smartphone, but I always had a paperback with me.

selfies and filming events with your phone are diseases

Yes!

Also, I am pretty sure that people won't even look at > 90 % of everything that they have captured.

Maybe genAI will make event and location selfies so easy to fake that they will lose value

Not only this. Every group (work, school, uni) now uses whatsapp/other for communication, and if you own an older device you sometimes cant use said apps, so you are obligated to have a newer phone or else you will become isolated.

And Android/iOS has closed source code that makes you unable to update.

I was a huge nerd for having a PDA in primary school. I still am surprised every time I step in public transport and see hundreds of heads bent down staring at tiny screens.

I don't know about others but I stare at my screen to avoid eye contact with strangers. It's not like I don't want to, it's that a part of me thinks that it is rude to be looking at others if you don't know them. Don't know from where it got instilled into my mind.

London is famous for the lack of any interaction on public transport. Before phones, the most organized people would read books or newspapers they'd purchased. Less organized people would read the free newspaper, look idly at the advertising, or stare out of the window — even in a tunnel.

That's how you spot the tourists, they speak to each other.

Ha, I didn’t in primary school but people still thought it was nerdy. I had a Palm Tungsten T5 I used throughout high school. Mobile calendars and reminders were a lifesaver for me. I couldn’t organize myself on paper if my life depended on it.

Especially with the proliferation of generative AI, I anticipate something of a tech backlash in the next decade, and performatively NOT looking at one's phone will be part of it.

I'm sure that this already exists to some extant in certain subgroups, but I'd bet a small amount of money that this will grow to be a visible trend.

Just a fun thought!

I expect the generative AI to improve enough that everyone's tiny bubble becomes infinite.

The final moments of kali yuga

The story that went untold here is how he had to be in prison for 30 years for a crime he quite likely didn't do.

It got really bad in the last couple of years, I think because the last group of people who were too old to get into technology are no longer seen much in public, so you go into a cafe and everyone, youth, adult or pensioner is just looking at their phone screen.

I saw this while browsing Hacker News on my phone. I wanted to say something but I don’t know what I could say without sounding hypocritical.

I guess I’ll just leave this comment and put my phone down. And try to be more mindful to not browse sites like this aimlessly. But I’ve tried that before too.

I try to stick to my laptop, at least it gives me the option to be creative which feels so much better.

Being stuck in scroll mode for most of the day is soul killing.

Hm, do you browse HN aimlessly? I'm not. My entire life revolves around stuff discussed here in almost the same proportion.

I own an iPhone and it's useful and a technological marvel (other smartphones too).

But I strongly dislike and am saddened by this impact that it's had on society.

How does one go from a hung jury with a single juror convicting to a unanimous conviction with a death sentence?

Also, isn’t this double jeopardy?

Well, yeah.

Mobile apps and their business models are designed for maximum addict^H^H^H^H^H^Hengagement. Journalists have written stories about social media and gaming companies hiring psychologists to better understand how to make their apps more engaging to people, even.

Unfortunately, it seems that state, federal or country-level governments have no interest in reeling this in. In fact, they actively enable this behavior by using ex-Twitter et. al. for official communications!

It's even worse than that, too; many businesses _only_ advertise or maintain business hours on social media platforms, so people that refuse to use these services are, effectively, digital dinosaurs.

I don't think things like checking your phone (usually social media) at a stoplight or a long stretch of road while you're driving becoming become more-or-less socially acceptable was what the iPhone team had envisioned when creating the phone, but here we are.

To be fair, though, this would have been just as much of a problem in 1994 as it is now if we had the technology back then. TV addiction was all the rage back then.

A half-solution that seems to have cut my own phone time down was to remove any app that lets me browse. HN is the only aggregator/exception, because there isn't a lot of bullshit here without intellectual value.

Instead, if I want to use my phone I have to deliberately look for things.

Everybody is a nerd now. They were not before. We beat them. We won

That's certainly a positive way to look at it.

On the other hand, the gold rush tech bros have made the industry miserable for us OG nerds.

'Everybody is eating hot chip,' says man freed after 30 years in prison

I feel like you skipped a few key steps in the meme

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