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I’m at the point where I’m ready to get a pixel and install graphene

Right but then you are jailed at Heathrow for not unlocking your phone.

The UK has made it clear that Counter Terrorism legislation has no limits in UK law even if that means compromising all systems and leaving them vulnerable to state actor attacks.

MPs will continue to use encrypted messaging systems that disappear messages during any inquiries of course.

Schiphol was already the superior airport for connections anyway, not being arrested just sweetens the deal.

You can provide a self destroy PIN with GrapheneOS.

And that certainly wouldn't raise their suspicion. Surely, they'd immediately let you go after that stunt.

But it would be up to him, wouldn't it? I think that's the main deal here: cart blanche access to your data, or giving into someone's bullshit fishing attempt because it's inconvenient.

Of course they could throw a tantrum, but it wouldn't be nothing but that, and they will have to release you once they cool down.

What are they going to say? That they won't release you until you magically unerase the phone? There's nothing to wait for.

I agree there is nothing to coerce out of you anymore and so you'd not be held on this forced decryption law... but not complying with such a court order probably results in another offence for which you can then get punished (not sure if a fine, community service, or jail time would be most likely for this), on top of that it doesn't look good to the judge who presides over the original case in which they de demanded the decryption in the first place

Except no one has ever been jailed for simply refusing to unlock a phone unless there was heavy evidence there was something on the phone.

Stop spreading incorrect FUD

No one that we have heard of yet.

You're an ignorant fool: https://www.theregister.com/Print/2009/11/24/ripa_jfl/

LOL literally a suspected terrorsit.

Being in court for something doesn't make you guilty of said thing. What's the "heavy evidence" you say they had before jailing this person?

Take a dumb phone (or none)?

I'm in a similar position. Strongly considering replacing my iPhone with a Pixel. But I realize I'm vulnerable via cloud services. GrapheneOS won't save me from someone poking through my Dropbox. I'll have to find another option for that too.

Nextcloud works great on GrapheneOS if you are willing to self host.

Until it will be illegal to do so.

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