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The title of the submission is nowhere in line with what the linked page even talks about. Flagging for out right lying.

Titled when I wrote this comment is: "US Energy Department ending appliance efficiency standards"

All the press release mentions is that they are not moving forward on new standards that Biden was pushing for while he was in office. Existing energy efficiency standards for appliances are still in effect.

From the link: "will postpone the implementation of seven of the Biden-Harris administration’s restrictive mandates on home appliances.'

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The article is internally inconsistent and I'm not sure what it actually means.

"Today’s actions postpone the efficiency standards for the following home appliance rules:"

That sure sounds like they are suspending all standards, but it's poorly written so who knows if that's what they actually meant.

>That sure sounds like they are suspending all standards,

No it doesn't. 'Postpone' and 'suspend' are two entirely different things.

"Today’s actions postpone the efficiency standards for the following home appliance rules." Seems substantially correct. Although I agree it doesn't meet the usual standards for just copying the article's headline.

The title is in fact correct. They are ending the appliance efficiency standards recently set.

It doesn't say they're ending "all" standards, which is what you're implying.

So you can drop the "flagging for lying".

The title was editorialized. That's grounds for flagging.

They're ending ones that weren't even in force yet.

The title definitely sounds like they're wholesale removing them.

The title is very deceptive.

The article title is: "Energy Department Acts to Lower Prices and Increase Consumer Choice with Household Appliances", which says nothing of substance.

The only part of the article that explained what was done states: "Today’s actions postpone the efficiency standards for the following home appliance rules:"

Would a title of "US energy department indefinitely postpones efficiency standards for home appliances" sound less deceptive to you?

I just want you to add the word "new". If you do that I'll happily unflag.

Thank you for doing this. Ever since the election there’s a concerted effort to exaggerate and mislead people. This site will go the way of Reddit unless people like you are paying attention and take action.

> The title of the submission is nowhere in line with what the linked page even talks about. Flagging for our right lying. All the press release mentions is that they are not moving forward on new standards that Biden was pushing for while he was in office. Existing energy efficiency standards for appliances are still in effect.

This is a very odd take. The title is based on the only part of the article that isn't PR fluff and describes what was done:

> Today’s actions postpone the efficiency standards for the following home appliance rules:

    Central Air Conditioners
    Clothes Washers and Dryers
    General Service Lamps
    Walk-In Coolers and Freezers
    Gas Instantaneous Water Heaters
    Commercial Refrigeration Equipment
    Air Compressors

If the title said "cancelling new appliance efficiency standards" it would be fine.

You wrote "ending appliance efficiency standards". That is a bad title.

I can't change the title, but if it's worth changing, someone will do it or it will just be resubmitted.

I think "new" would make sense and I accidentally conflated them also writing about the EPA rolling back *existing* standards for other appliances in this article.

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