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Gazeta Wyborcza, Poland's largest newspaper quits X, now on Bluesky

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Roman salute isn't a great communication since Rome.

The Romans didn't salute like Nazis, but Musk sure did. Twice!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_salute

"Roman salute" was invented roughly 1500 years after Rome was a thing. It's a modern, XIX century invention.

Thanks for reminder.

Why not keep both?

Because taking a side is more important to them than reaching as wide an audience as possible. Not making any value judgment here, but that's the situation.

Wording it that way sounds shallow.

They've decided X stands counter to their principles, and are risking a decrease in audience.

> We have matured to the decision to leave X for a long time. We observed the growing shares of false, troller accounts that are increasingly controlling the narrative on this platform. We have seen that X not only does not fight, but even promotes hate and disinformation posts.

it's clearly explained in their pinned tweet and linked article https://wyborcza.pl/7,75398,31499226,wychodzimy-z-x-do-zobac...

"We have been maturing to decide to leave X for a long time. We’ve watched the growing stake in fake, throud major accounts that are increasingly shaking the narrative on this platform. We have seen that X not only does not fight, but even promotes hate and disinformation posts."

IMO this should be a top level comment, but the topic is going to be flagged dead anyway so...

oop, already happened. This website, I swear...

“shaking the narrative”

What narrative? Their narrative?

The translation above is really bad. It was probably supposed to be "shaping the narrative", not "shaking". In my opinion, this translation is much closer to the original:

"We had been contemplating leaving X for quite some time. We observed the growing presence of fake, troll accounts that increasingly steer the narrative on this platform. We saw that X not only fails to combat but actually promotes hateful and disinformation-driven posts."

Got it. Thank you. They don’t like other people (some or many of whom are bots) steering their narrative.

So the solution is to move to another platform, where the narrative is more easily steered?

funnily enough I posted twitter's translation from Polish to English

If there are only garbage, bot, racist and conspirator replies under any post you make - then it isn't useful anymore. Not for legit readers, not for the newspaper. Also, moving might be the final straw for some readers to move - which might be considered healthy by some from a democratic standpoint.

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I’d guess because they are anti-Elon Musk.

You don't need to guess. They say why. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43058461

How can you not be

You can tell a lot about someone from their level of hatred for Musk (and Trump). In 50 years or so, future humans will look back at this phenomenon as one of insanity of our era.

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