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It must be said that from an outsider's point a view, in quite a few aspects it very much sounds like a cult.

Get an HN article about C++, and you can be certain the comment section is going to deteriorate at some point into a religious war mentioning Rust. Get an article about Rust, and there is going to be drama in the comments.

As a programmer that could potential consider Rust, it is off-putting.

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I get the opposite experience, never saw those comments chiming in Rust everytime another programming language is mentioned or pushing in to rewrite everything into Rust, but I get comments complaining about such invisible forces.

It’s like how people complain about Apple users. You see more threads complaining about how annoying those Apple fanboys are than you see actual Apple fanboys being annoying.

I mean... Every HN thread with Apple discussion is pretty annoying. It might not be annoying to you as an Apple user, but for many of us it's unbearable...

Only a Sith deals in absolutes. I think blanket statements about a group like this are harmful and generally untrue

This has been my experience too. There were a couple of years (like 2016-2018) where I saw a handful of people pushing the RIIR line, but I've seen many more people for many more years complaining about how those RIIR people are everywhere. Any time there's an article on Phoronix that mentions Rust, the trolls come out in droves to whine about how toxic the Rust community is and how they make everything political, while the only people in those threads making anything political are the anti-Rust trolls themselves.

Get an article about Rust, and there’s going to be comments about how drama, zealous Rust is from people that never use Rust. Regardless of its content.

So yeah, typical internet houlier than thou reactions, I wouldn’t read much into them.

> Get an article about Rust, and there’s going to be comments about how drama, zealous Rust is from people that never use Rust.

Of course: You don't have to use Rust to see this very post here on HN, and quite a few other similar ones. Are you saying people just imagine there's a lot of drama around Rust, or what? (That TFA here or in other similar posts are all lies, or outright made-up?) Because to me -- who never use Rust -- it looks like a fact.

Which is a large contributing factor to why I probably never will, either.

You can also be certain when reading a Zig post you will see "Why would I use Zig over Rust?" or "Isn't Zig unsafe?"

They cant help but proselytize. Its like talking to my recent born again christian friend who cant help but steer every conversation to Christianity and reciting scripture. It's infuriating.

Though TBH it very much feels like the cult of OOP that rocked the 90's. And look where that paradigm is now ...

> Though TBH it very much feels like the cult of OOP that rocked the 90's. And look where that paradigm is now ...

It's alive and well. Sure, Java-style OOP might not be, but that's mainly because it was never sensible OOP to begin with.

A bit like "Agile is dead" and everybody hating "Agile". Sure, what they hate is what's been pushed as "Agile" for the last decade or more: ceremoniel-over-flexibility-Scrum, rigid sprints, "user story" as a synonym for "ticket", etc, etc.

Let's hope that it's just "Fauauxp" that, like Fauxgile, is about to be dead. ASAP.

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