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My two thoughts on this:

- there's a real threat from AI to the open internet by drowning it in spam, fraud, and misinformation

- current "AI safety" work does basically nothing to address this and is kind of pointless

It's important that AI-enabled processes which affect humans are fair. But that's just a subset of a general demand for justice from the machine of society, whether it's implemented by humans or AIs or abacuses. Which comes back to demanding fair treatment from your fellow humans, because we haven't solved the human "alignment problem".

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And of course people responsible for AI disruptions would love to sell solutions for the problems they created too. Notably[1]:

> Worldcoin's business is to provide a reliable way to authenticate humans online, which it calls World ID.

[1]: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_(blockchain)

“Tools for Humanity” and “for-profit” in a single sentence lost me.

From a consumer's perspective I want declaration.

I want to know whether an image or video is largely generated by AI, especially when it comes to news. Images and video often imply that they are evidence of something actually happening.

I don't know how this would be achieved. I also don't care. I just want people to be accountable and transparent.

We can’t even define the boundaries of AI. When you take a photo on a mobile phone, the resulting image is a neural network manipulated composite of multiple photos [0]. Anyone using Outlook or Grammarly now is probably using some form of generative AI when writing emails.

Rules like this would just lead to everything having an “AI generated” label.

People have tried it in the past with trying to require fashion magazines and ads warn when they photoshop the models. But obviously everything is photoshopped, and the problem becomes how do we separate good photoshop (levels, blemish remover?) from bad photoshop (warp tool?).

[0] https://appleinsider.com/articles/23/11/30/a-bride-to-be-dis...

It can’t be achieved now what Mr. authoritarian?

And so it seems we await the imminent arrival of a new eternal September of unfathomable scale; indeed as we deliberate, that wave may already be cresting, breaking upon every corner of the known internet. O wherefore this moment?

>there's a real threat from AI to the open internet by drowning it in spam, fraud, and misinformation

That happened years ago. And without llms

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