In China maybe where it's 100k RMB (~roughly $14k). Everywhere else it's the double or at least $25k. It's £26k ($32k) in the UK. It's €32k ($33k) in Germany
Even in Mexico it's $26k (535k pesos) not $14k https://www.autocosmos.com.mx/catalogo/vigente/byd/dolphin
https://www.motorist.sg/coe-results https://bydcars.sg/wp-content/uploads/2025/01/BYD-Pricelist-...
>In Singapore, most people typically purchase new vehicles through dealers. Dealers will collect orders from customers and participate in the COE bidding on behalf of their customers.
>Supply and demand set the price for COE, which regulates demand. When COE prices are high, vehicle prices, as quoted by dealers, will have to increase, reducing demand. When COE prices are lower, dealers can afford to reduce prices if they want to, which will increase demand.
https://dollarsandsense.sg/guide-understanding-coe-bidding-s...
It looks like dealers handle getting the COE (which makes sense, since you couldn't drive the vehicle off the lot without one).
Subtract the $85,000 (SD) CAT A COE cost from the car price and it comes out to $80,000 (SD), or ~$60,000 USD.
While still higher, I believe these are all very reasonable prices — perhaps just not as mind blowing. I’m optimistic for the future.
Sure, as reasonable as offers from Western manufacturers. You can get plenty of EVs for 30k USD.
Yes. Dacia Sprint. Plenty of it.
Still not US$14k, but not quite the $25k it is in other markets.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BYD_Seagull
https://mexico.as.com/motor/byd-dolphin-mini-que-tiene-de-es...
I was ready to hate on it, but for the price and quality inside at least, wild. It also drove like any other car in the low/mid range that I’ve owned, wheel felt confident and had some heft to it (my preference).
Additionally, a level 2 charger is just a high amperage wall socket plus some safety equipment.
That said, the Australia price seems particularly cheap; is that before grants and things? In Ireland, say, it’s typically 1.5-2eur/W before grant (grant is .7eur/W up to 2kW, .2eur/W up to 4kW, capped at 1800).
My typical charging regime is: charge to 80%. Drive until the car has done 100km (down to ~50% capacity), then charge back up to 80%. If we go over 100km in a day the car drops below 50%. That can't be topped up in a single night, but it just means the charging accumulates over the next few nights until it's back to 80%. It works as long as the average is less than 100km per day and the peak is less than 300km per day.
Whilst it wouldn't do for a taxi, it's perfectly okay for the driving we do.
Your 100km limit is also less than my wife's round trip commute to work, nevermind adding in running errands after or any of the regular travel we do to visit family, though at least some of that would be easy with upgraded charging.
Edit: to be more specific, most US outlets top out at 1.5kw to be safe, though they can usually be temporarily pushed to 1.8 for things like an electric kettle.
In most countries standard mains outlets are 220-240V, usually 10-15amp depending on country.
> Your 100km limit is also less than my wife's round trip commute to work, nevermind adding in running errands after or any of the regular travel we do to visit family
Even by US standards, that is somewhat unusually high.
With that said, ignoring 600 million people, including the single most car-centric cultures, seems a bit silly when talking about EV adoption challenges, no?
In countries with most outlets at 220v it’s probably easier, plus usually less long distance driving than the US.
Obviously if you put a 240v, 50amp outlet in a garage you can ignore everything I just wrote.
There are also 30A circuits, usually for a dryer or stove. An electrician can set it up for a car, but it's not as easy as running an extension cord to a regular outlet.
It actually worked pretty well for me. There were a couple of times I ended up "fast" (the Bolt is slow at DC charging) charging but very few in more than a year. The garage didn't have 240V power and we knew we were moving.
At the new house, I have a 240V 60A hardwired circuit for the EV charger so I can charge much faster, probably 25 miles of range per hour, maybe more. I haven't used a fast charger in probably six months.
It is a shock seeing what cold temperatures do to range in the Bolt. We have an Equinox EV and it seems to do better plus it has a longer range to start with.
Things tend to be much closer than they are in the U.S.
Protectionism only
Throw in the tariffs and what not, and you lose out to other low end EV models.
Demand is also relative to price and US EVs are very expensive.
From the largest maker of BEVs.
A+ goalpost moving!
The CEO is worried about how hostile the U.S. market might be for Chinese companies, not about low demand.
That's a lot more than the US, but that's not the point. 8% is plenty large enough to be sizable market.
EV credits going away will dampen that, but that will also be partly or even fully offset just by how fast that segment is growing.
Now, the US is a big market, but even so, particularly with the US’s tariff barriers and unique consumer preferences (the average car in the US is a lot _bigger_ than elsewhere, and cars made for other markets do not sell well; for instance see the leaf), you can see why car makers would prefer to focus on the EU and China.