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Strange to point out those comparisons but not the actual transistor difference between the two.

B580 only has 19.6B transistors while the RTX 4070 has 35.8B transistors. So the RTX 4070 has nearly double (1.82x) the transistors of B580.

The RTX 4060 ti has 22.9B and the RTX 4060 has 18.9B transistors

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Would the difference in density be more likely due to a difference in design philosophy or the intel design team being less expert?

As a customer do intel pay for mm2 or for transistors?

Forgive me if you are not the right person for these questions.

Hard to say why the density is that different, if those transistor numbers are accurate. A less dense design would allow for higher clocking, & while the clocks are fairly high, they aren't that far out there, but that's one factor (I'd hope they wouldn't trade half the area for a few extra MHz, when a gpu w/ 2x the tr will just be better).

It could also be in addition that the # of transistors that each company provides is different as they may count them differently (but I'm not convinced of this).

Customers pay by the wafer, so mm^2; though tr cost is a function of that so :3 .

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