Analysis of 2024 election results in Clark County indicates manipulation
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This isn't news, it's a paid press release.
https://www.einpresswire.com/ai/press-release-generator
This could literally be AI fantasy. Shame on whoever created this.
I think it's valid criticism to say that you should have taken a closer look before submitting, and concluded that it was too junky for HN. In which case the flagging is appropriate.
nice mind reading skills over there
the idea we can't discuss it is the most scandalous of all, IMO, especially given we are just bunch of nerds discussing shit.
They're sharing their opinion; no proofs to be found anywhere, nor evidences.
> Trying to repress discussion is the opposite of soberly analyzing divisive topics
In your opinion, right? Because under mathematical logic, the opposite of "repressing discussion" is "encouraging discussion", nothing less, nothing more.
Suppose there's a divisive topic that is posted on a forum with mostly common or at least topic-unaligned appeal. Stands to reason then that most discussion on that topic will be of low quality, since again, the community on the forum is not well-aligned to debate on the matter, right? That is the reasoning behind their opinion I'd imagine, and I can definitely agree with this personally.
And while inevitably there would be a minority of people who are well equipped to engage the topic productively, even if they post and their posts gain traction, the discussions around them will be nevertheless low quality - I think this prediction is agreeable as well at least.
Note also that nowhere in this model is the intent of the participants represented anywhere. So even though your intent is commendable:
> would encourage you to dig in and practice curiosity and open discussion
... it nevertheless misses the point. You're also (supposedly) asking for topically better aligned minds to put themselves through the torture of engaging those (supposedly) overwhelmingly not, both in the sense that they're (supposedly) super not capable, and in the sense that (supposedly) there are a lot more of them in here than not.
This is further supported how for example in this thread you exercised what I refer to as mind reading in both of the comments I've seen from you.
Example #[1]:
> and therefore tried to flag to repress discussion of it
They said that they flagged it because it's:
> too junky
... not because they're trying to repress discussion of it. Naturally, I do recognize that the post getting flagged would prevent further discussion of it, but it is both dishonest to say that they did it with that goal in mind (their goal is in their mind, which you cannot read) and also just completely untrue (in my opinion).
Example #[2]:
> so you are attempting to prove your point
In this scenario you're telling them what they're doing, which is again something only they can know. You only really know what you think they're doing, but that is not what you're saying. Consider the following alternative:
> so I think that goes directly against your point.
Note the "I think" part.
These are both very standout signs (for me at least) that quality discourse, especially on divisive topics, would not be possible with you. I further think that this is true for many other people as well, in most of the threads here. I highly question if it is possible to do with me as well, particularly in specific topics, and with consistency. I'd go as far as to say that with random people, on the internet, it is essentially impossible to have productive discussion on divisive matters, if it is even a possibility at all, ever.
this was removed from the front page, spot 3 when i saw it, yesterday due to these flags.
so to defend the claim someone didn't do exactly what they did - and worked - is a bit awkward to me
It's also not what I pointed at to be an opinion, but this:
> This is not a forum for original research. Additionally, this community is not well-equipped for sober analysis of divisive topics.
Interesting thing to point out nonetheless, will mull it over.
> due to these flags
I do not believe this can be established. I further find it very unlikely that people would flag a post decidedly because this specific downvoted person encouraged them to.
> to defend the claim someone didn't do exactly what they did
This is not a claim that was posted in the comments I was replying to, and so it's impossible for me to be defending it. I take you mean why am I defending the people who flagged the post and have encouraged others to do so - ignoring that this defending behavior is completely perceptual on your end, I wrote what I did because the reading that "they did it so that it would prevent discussion" is a different one, is implying more than the former, and I believe is strongly misleading and conspiratorial as a result.
What? No...
I think it would have been better if you'd left your follow-up comment [1] when flagging. (FWIW I agree with your reasoning.) Flagging without comment was counterproductive, as it spawned a second submission from folks suspicious of why the first one was flagged.
That is better to scrutinize than the press release.
The statistics, graphs, and conclusions don’t make any sense.
https://github.com/DevrathIyer/ballotproof/tree/master
Apparently, Shaotran removed his name from the repo and is now listed as a private user, but it can be found in the archive of the devpost page linked from the repo: https://devpost.com/software/ballotproof-vision
https://web.archive.org/web/20250204131222/https://devpost.c...
Info from: https://bsky.app/profile/cartwright776.bsky.social/post/3lhr...
Could this be used to spoof the results, and are there artifacts that could be discovered to directly link it or rule it out?
Here is an image from the Election Truth Alliance analysis that shows a possible artifact: https://img1.wsimg.com/isteam/ip/9087f51c-d3bd-4002-9943-797...
PDF of their analysis: https://electiontruthalliance.org/clark-county%2C-nv
EDIT: posted my concern on bsky https://bsky.app/profile/patcon.bsky.social/post/3lhrwuw6dy2...
But that this skill set gets you into E's inner circle definitely goes onto the ever-growing pile of circumstantial evidence that something is not right.
Yes I will conceed that all this talk is circumstantial. It's like Lab Leak (even the desire to gaslight anyone who talks about it)
The word "objectively" does a lot of work here, and most of it is unpaid. Every election has irregularities, and every election has the losing side casting suspicions around. No, I literally mean every single one. We have search engines now. Just go and look up. It's literally every time.
Sometimes, those suspicions turn true - there are really people who conduct fraud in elections, in various ways. Most often, though, those suspicions are thrown around by partisans unable to comprehend how their side, being obviously morally superior, the only sane side and widely popular, still lost the election. In other words, they are just junk. Without a substantial evidence base, any amount of them do not constitute any evidentiary base. Zero times millions is still the same zero.
> people with expertise in generating ballots
Did you ever actually see a real US election ballot? Generating something like that is beyond trivial. There are many official sites that just let you download a sample ballot. Even if that ballot is somehow modified from the actual one in subtle ways, the actual one is quite simple too. It may be a problem to get the paper exactly right if they check that, but having the code to generate a ballot does not help you there in any way. And also generating something like that would be pretty useless by itself, if you have electoral fraud in mind, because the problem is not producing the paper, it's getting it into the system and getting it counted and not getting caught while doing that.
Summarily, this "expertise" does not enable you in any non-trivial way to perpetrate election fraud, and does not make any hard part of that any easier. Also, you can find people with such expertise - and better - at any design and print shop. They can reproduce any of it - and much more complex designs - without any problem, that's literally what they do all day.
> Yes I will conceed that all this talk is circumstantial.
No, "circumstantial" is way too generous a word for this. "Empty fantasies" is more fitting.
Since Trump is extremely concerned about election security I’m sure he will send teams of people to investigate these anomalies.
I don't really understand how would opens source software that checks the validity of ballots, or even generate fake ballots help in committing election fraud? The hard part is getting the fake ballot to the counting location, how the fake ballots is made, be it by machine or by hand is not particularly relevant, anyone can do that.
Link to the full report: https://electiontruthalliance.org/clark-county%2C-nv
At the end of the full report, there are two histograms of the vote shares earned by Harris and by Trump, respectively, overlaid by a gaussian ("normal") distribution. Election shares tend to follow gaussian distributions [1]. In Clark County, NV, the election shares have a strong discontinuity that favors Trump, but only in Early Voting results.
This discontinuity only appears to exist on machines that tabulated a lot of results.
Past elections that are suspected to have been fraudulent (a few in Russia and one in Uganda, prior to 2012) show these exact same types of discontinuities, whereas elections that are generally regarded as secure do not show these types of discontinuities [1].
Are there other potential explanations for these discontinuities? ("Russian Tails" as they are colloquially known [2].) Yes! Election Truth Alliance lists them out as any proper data scientist would. Furthermore, ETA lists and links their datasets, and invites anyone to use them. This is what a model data scientist should do.
It seems that they are trying to get more data from more contested areas. What will they find? I don't know, but it seems that the more this phenomenon presents itself, then some of the alternate hypotheses can be ruled out.
[1] https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3478593/
[2] https://www.rferl.org/a/georgia-election-manipulation-russia... *[Interesting that Elon wants to get rid of Radio Free Europe. -ed]
The analysis here is using publicly available data and they are pointing out statistical properties of that data that they say are highly indicative of manipulation. They are giving enough information for outside statisticians and others to reproduce their work.
This is not at all comparable to most of the claims after the 2020 election. The closest comparable claims in 2020 were some of the claims based on some vote distributions in some districts not obeying Benford's law. Those didn't hold up because given the demographics of those districts Benford's law would not be expected to hold.
(I wrote a web-based simple simulation using data from one of the states that the people basing claims on Benford's law were using in order to illustrate how much the distribution could differ from a Benford distribution. Anyone curious can find it here [1]. There's a link on that page to run it).
But this time around it's not going to face honest scrutiny in the courts so they won't have to admit they have nothing.
"But there's evidence this time and there wasn't in 2020!" Well, the other side would argue the opposite. We're not going to get anywhere this way.
Look: regardless of the the extent to which these alleged voting shenanigans are real, we need to fix the system. The legitimacy of the state is at risk.
Just as Caesar's wife must be above reproach, our voting system must be above reproach. There are plenty of common sense things officials can take to bolster the public's faith in the system. For example, we should ban electronic voting machines. The real threat to democracy isn't election manipulation but officials who refuse to enact measures that would dispel even the appearance of manipulation.
The people claiming election interference in 2020 had every chance to provide any piece of evidence, and they never could.
It is absolutely not the position of mainstream Democrats that the 2024 election was rigged, invalid etc. This ETA organization (founded December) is some fringe weirdo and doesn't represent dems.
I shouldn't spend time on this but it seems from context you think that word means "bullshit" and it doesn't. I'm sorry for pointing it out but it bothers me.
> "But there's evidence this time and there wasn't in 2020!" Well, the other side would argue the opposite. We're not going to get anywhere this way.
We might be able to by actually looking at the evidence. This is a really common problem I see among people who through good intentions avoid controversial topics.
Sure scientists say the moon is real, but Keith on Facebook says it's a hologram. I guess we should rule out any evidence from the entire field of astronomy until they can dispel even the appearance of misinformation.
It's reasonable for all of us to expect that the election was secure, with a very high degree of certainty. When people aren't willing to consider the possibility of shenanigans, or that the systems* we're using might be insecure, we shouldn't be surprised that people are unwilling to do the democratic thing and accept the winner.
*by "system", I don't just mean the voting machines themselves, but also the whole process surrounding the collection and tallying of votes.
It seems that you're suggesting some fairly obvious factors working against Harris weren't considered by an organization whose entire purpose is to sniff out voter fraud. Are you suggesting that they overlooked such an obvious detail, or that they're willfully ignoring it?
( "random" here means more chaotic and unpredictable )
after which there was a more correlated bias toward one candidate that had a stong early trend toward a particular outcome (consistent clumping with little bounce).
The assertion is that this rarely seen in "real free voting data".
In a single picture: https://img1.wsimg.com/isteam/ip/9087f51c-d3bd-4002-9943-797...
These analysts acknowledge the "deep red areas" explanation in their pdf, but they handwave it away in an unconvincing way: they say that the same effect doesn't occur for election day voting, only the early vote. But most voting in Nevada doesn't happen on Election Day. According to the data they present, every single voting machine in Clark County processed less than 150 election-day votes, with most well under 100. That is, they'd all be well to the left of the dotted line. So even in the vote-manipulation scenario, these analysts should expect to be seeing no separation effect for the election-day vote. Its absence tells us nothing.
It is not "literally numerology", that's just hyperbole on your part.
None of your comments in this thread have had any substance, just repetition of the same "gut feeling" opinion.
https://www.newsweek.com/2024-election-rigged-donald-trump-e...
https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-elon-musk-voting-machi...
Regardless of the ETA's analysis, or the DOGE employees ballot software, that comment by Trump on its own raises the suspicion that this should be investigated and not immediately flagged, downvoted and dismissed
# Download and extract zip file
import requests
import zipfile
import io
# Get raw data from Clark County website
zip_url = "https://elections.clarkcountynv.gov/electionresultsTV/cvr/24G/24G_CVRExport_NOV_Final_Confidential.zip"
# Download the zip file
response = requests.get(zip_url)
zip_file = zipfile.ZipFile(io.BytesIO(response.content))
# Extract to the current working directory
zip_file.extractall()
# Close the zip file
zip_file.close()
import pandas as pd
import matplotlib.pyplot as plt
import numpy as np
# Read the actual data, skipping the first three header rows and excluding downballot races
df = pd.read_csv('/content/24G_CVRExport_NOV_Final_Confidential.csv', skiprows=3, usecols=range(21), low_memory=False)
# Find the Trump and Harris columns
trump_col = "REP"
harris_col = "DEM"
# Convert to numeric
df[trump_col] = pd.to_numeric(df[trump_col], errors='coerce')
df[harris_col] = pd.to_numeric(df[harris_col], errors='coerce')
# Filter for early voting
early_voting = df[df['CountingGroup'] == 'Early Voting']
# Group by tabulator and calculate percentages
tabulator_stats = early_voting.groupby('TabulatorNum').agg({
harris_col: 'sum',
trump_col: 'sum'
}).reset_index()
# Calculate total votes and percentages
tabulator_stats['total_votes'] = tabulator_stats[harris_col] + tabulator_stats[trump_col]
tabulator_stats['harris_pct'] = tabulator_stats[harris_col] / tabulator_stats['total_votes'] \* 100
tabulator_stats['trump_pct'] = tabulator_stats[trump_col] / tabulator_stats['total_votes'] \* 100
# Create subplots
fig, (ax1, ax2) = plt.subplots(2, 1, figsize=(10, 8))
# Plot Harris histogram
ax1.hist(tabulator_stats['harris_pct'], bins=50, edgecolor='black', color='blue', alpha=0.7)
ax1.set_title('Distribution of Harris Votes by Tabulator (Early Voting Only)')
ax1.set_xlabel('Percentage of Votes for Harris')
ax1.set_ylabel('Number of Tabulators')
# Plot Trump histogram
ax2.hist(tabulator_stats['trump_pct'], bins=50, edgecolor='black', color='red', alpha=0.7)
ax2.set_title('Distribution of Trump Votes by Tabulator (Early Voting Only)')
ax2.set_xlabel('Percentage of Votes for Trump')
ax2.set_ylabel('Number of Tabulators')
plt.tight_layout()
plt.show()
This produces a figure identical (up to histogram bucketing) to the one at the end of the linked article.For others who don't know what the "Russian tail" is, here is the link within the PDF: https://www.rferl.org/a/georgia-election-manipulation-russia...
> According to the theory, in fair elections, turnout indicators typically follow a regular graphical representation that resembles a bell shape. If anomalies appear in the data -- for example, forms different from the bell shape or the bell "grows a tail" -- this indicates unfair elections.
There is *no* respectable statistician who would *ever* draw a conclusion from data. You could say 'may indicate evidence of unfair elections,' but it is impossible to deem whether something occurred or not with 100% certainty.
Now to address their "indicators."
> While in cities the data representation mostly follows a bell shape, in the regions it is anomalously deviated
All statistics is just a representation of data, it tells us nothing of logic. Logic is also based in axioms and it's important to identify what those are.
Here the author is saying the data is "anomalously deviated" with the axiomatic assumption that all voters must follow the same distribution, but why should this assumption be held true? It ignores other logical factors that may sway these distributions.
If I'm a candidate for a political position that would give a rural precinct free money, wouldn't that heavily affect that population's voting outcomes? Surely what's said in a political campaign can sway these things, yet there's nothing in the article that mentions that.
> According to the theory, if a number of stations emerge where one candidate -- the "beneficiary" -- is unusually high, this might indicate falsification. There's a high risk of manipulation where increased overall voter turnout is reflected only in support of the "beneficiary."
So the belief is that because there are 2 distributions for the number of precincts with a certain percentage of "yes" votes, that automatically "indicates falsification"? There needs to be more information than this to make a conclusion. What one holds as axioms are a matter of opinion.
The only way to get something useful out of a counterargument to this is for a proponent to exhaustively list all the votes they think are legitimate, and for the opponent to show the same patterns can occur there as well.
Similarly for a proponent to convince detractors, they'd have to show that other elections they see as legitimate *never* indicate those patterns. Otherwise this is just an opinion piece on data.
Here's the image that represents the anomaly in early voting: https://img1.wsimg.com/isteam/ip/9087f51c-d3bd-4002-9943-797...
> There is no respectable statistician who would ever draw a conclusion from data. You could say 'may indicate evidence of unfair elections,' but it is impossible to deem whether something occurred or not with 100% certainty.
The originators of the analysis are claiming that this indicates manipulation. Perhaps they should have given more qualifiers in that image of their analysis, but the data is alarming and it is an up-hill battle even to get their analysis noticed (other than the press release to WCIA, only Newsweek has mentioned it). We can say 'maybe' but given the current political and media environment right now, it is likely that that qualification would have doomed their analysis from getting any coverage at all.
Here is a video from the group that discusses these issues and is worth watching because it speaks directly to your concerns and others: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOQ-GxJyJN4
Edit: I haven't fully absorbed their analysis, so I've gone back and they do make those qualifications to the data ("Data Suggestive of Vote Manipulation", etc) within the PDF: https://img1.wsimg.com/blobby/go/9087f51c-d3bd-4002-9943-797...
"The pattern above shows an inexplicable spike in vote distribution that is statistically unlikely based on typical human voting behavior."
And while discussing alternate causes ("Deep Red" Areas) "While such a deviation in the data could potentially still emerge, this does not explain why the pattern is limited to Early Voting, as in that scenario it would be reasonable to expect the same deviation to appear in Election Day results. Instead, Election Day results indicate a normal, expected variation."
10:10 Another claim of irregularity that doesn't quite support their conclusion. It seems they're indicating that both plots seem irregular, which I agree, but there thesis of fraud doesn't completely address 2020's case. They could say republican cheated in 2020 as well, but then they'd have to explain why this election went any different.
11:36 Here they're trying to support the irregularity of the data with anecdote. "Does this match from your opinion with the actual demographic there?" is not a methodical approach to figuring out what's wrong. Surely not every republican would be okay with fraudulent votes regardless of who won. A contrary voice in these video would lend some credence to their claims.
13:28 Voting against one's registered party also doesn't seem crazy to me as I've had many friends who have this past election. My own anecdote doesn't affect the data and may not sway arguments, nor does my theory of controversial elections breeding "irregular" results, but hopefully it can create an equally valid opinion than the one presented in the video.
15:05 If someone was rigging the election in what way? Any security model being claimed as breached needs to define what constitutes a break and how the attack could create that break in security.
16:30 I don't understand why a '2014 Wisonsin Gov. Race' (the title of the graph) is applicable here. Maybe she just used it as a lead-in for the next part?
18:37 Why is she bringing up the random distribution of inadvertent errors?
After spending about an hour watching the video and observing the results, I'm even more skeptical of their claims.
It would have been nice to have 2020 there too, but they may not have had access to the data
> 10:10 Another claim of irregularity that doesn't quite support their conclusion. It seems they're indicating that both plots seem irregular, which I agree, but there thesis of fraud doesn't completely address 2020's case. They could say republican cheated in 2020 as well, but then they'd have to explain why this election went any different.
A possible explanation as to why 2020 cheating failed and 2024 did not could be that the cheating was not able to overcome how unpopular he was for his handling of Covid and other issues. For the cheating to work, it cannot be obvious and therefore must be limited. Conversely, Kamala was not as popular in 2024 as Biden was in 2020, so the cheating was successful.
Alternatively, in Trump's own words, Elon made the difference in 2024: "He knows those computers better than anybody. All those computers. Those vote-counting computers," Trump told the crowd. "And we ended up winning Pennsylvania like in a landslide." https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-elon-musk-voting-machi...
It could be that whoever was doing the cheating did not have the resources to enact it as successfully without Elon's support (Starlink, Shaotran, etc).
> 11:36 Here they're trying to support the irregularity of the data with anecdote. > 13:28 Voting against one's registered party also doesn't seem crazy to me
Right, anecdotal evidence and the irregularity of voting against your registered party are not conclusive evidence, but do add to the consensus that a more systematic analysis needs to be done.
> 15:05 If someone was rigging the election in what way? Any security model being claimed as breached needs to define what constitutes a break and how the attack could create that break in security.
That is exactly one of the next steps that should be taken. Figure out how it could have been done, now that there is evidence that points to irregularities. The possibility does not prove it happened, but it would then help go towards the further step of trying to find evidence that it did (once we know where to look and what for).
> 16:30 I don't understand why a '2014 Wisonsin Gov. Race' (the title of the graph) is applicable here. Maybe she just used it as a lead-in for the next part?
She is showing the percentage of the cumulative summation of votes. She has data for the 2014 Wisconsin race that is categorized based on the type of the voting machines. The green line and purple line are relatively flat, showing that the percentage of votes did not change significantly based on the number of cumulative votes. The red lines are suspicious because the percentage grows significantly after a few thousand votes. I'm not sure why they used a line graph instead of a scatterplot, but presumably they fit a line to the data for each machine.
> 18:37 Why is she bringing up the random distribution of inadvertent errors?
She's bringing it up to point out that it could not be caused by random errors (i.e., human errors caused by the election workers, etc), because random errors would be randomly distributed and produce roughly a flat line. The red lines aren't flat, so they are not contributing to the gain in votes.
Look at the graphs at 19:00 and 20:00 for Clark County, NV 2024 early voting. They both show increases in the percentage rate for Trump after around 300 votes for each machine. As one of the speakers says,
"If we're stuffing a bunch of tabulators at 60% for Trump, then we're going to get an asymptote at 60%," which is visible in the data for Clark County, NV in 2024
Thank you for bringing up your points, because after watching the video and with your criticism in mind, addressing them made me more confident that we need a comprehensive investigation to follow this lead. If their claim is correct, it is unlikely that we will see that investigation led by the Federal government, but citizens and states can take the lead.
This is outright pedantry, but I'm willing to give the benefit of the doubt. Scientific research is literally the process of drawing conclusions from data, after repeated measurement and control of independent variables.
To me, statisticians analyze data and make objective statements about what they see. The process of scientific research is a different beast altogether. The objective statements about the data can only be used to inspire or support an argument. The correctness of the argument can only be recognized if the listener is convinced.
What I can address is that the role of a statistician is to interpret the statements made by data towards the objective (an unobtainable notion), not vice versa. I don't know any statistician, myself included, who isn't aware of the limitations of sampling, and thus the impossibility of dealing in objectivity -- hence why conclusions are often posited in speculative terms, such as probabilities or even hypotheses. Having the ability to reach those conclusions from the recorded observations of real phenomena is why statisticians tend to operate within subject matters.
Towards that end, I do agree that any statistician worth their salt would not take too much at face value on a two dimensional chart, and that this whole matter bears more investigation. But the idea that no respectable statisticians draw conclusions from data... I'm left to assume that you respect no statisticians.
Assuming it was actually audited. The one I'm most aware of (one of the Arizona counties) was called an audit, but it wasn't an audit - it was a recount.
It is a bit like the weird jump in scandals out of politics between the pre-internet era and now. It turns out that the press just didn't report on a lot of things. Voter fraud will be similar, as the data becomes more public and people start coordinating more effectively a lot of dross is probably going to get turned up.
This is a simple statement of statistical pattern weirdness in the bulk voting record of a county.
I'm in Australia, I have a geostatistical and epidemiology background using such things to find valuable mineral deposits and early signs of unusual diseases.
The statements made here are far more convincing of actual fraud than the 2020 claims .. if this repeats across many county's then it becomes more and more certain.
If it's no more than a blip in a single county then it's just one of those things, for it to be fraud there would have to be similar patterns in multiple counties in swing states.
The future then is a right old bucket of worms.
We've got some issues to deal with
I happened to have detailed day-by-day voting and registration data for the 2024 Nevada election as it was happening. Harris losing Nevada was telegraphed in the data almost from the beginning. Forget the top line totals, the underlying structure of where and who was registering and voting in real-time made the outcome all but a foregone conclusion weeks before the actual election. Nevada was some of the easiest money on the prediction markets.
Much is explained by an unusually robust turnout of low-propensity voters for Trump. They often don't care about the rest of the ballot, so it skews results albeit in a predictable way. (This is also the risk for Republicans; they are unlikely to show up for mid-terms and may sit on the sidelines again in four years.)
Nevada has consistently clean election processes. I am only aware of a single anomaly over the last several Federal elections that was clearly inexplicable. It wasn't this election, that instance looked like a system failure rather than fraud, and it didn't change the outcome. Some other States are rife with anomalies that persist even with sophisticated analysis most cycles.
If I was going to pick a State to look for Federal election irregularities, Nevada would be pretty low on my list. It is easy for amateurs to fool themselves into thinking they've found election fraud when really they just don't understand what is required to find a signal that holds up under sophisticated analysis. Same thing happened in 2020.
I also used to live in Nevada and am pretty attuned to the local politics. There are local bellwether statistics that are traditionally pretty reliable for indicating how an election will break. Harris was upside down on these too. The tortured rationalization by Nevada election pundits like Jon Ralston to reinterpret those as "good actually" was uncritically repeated widely in the national media.
I stay out of the analysis business though I know a lot about it. A friend has been hardcore in the business for over a decade as a side-hustle and drags me into it every 2-4 years to help out with data sourcing and anomaly forensics, which are more my specialty. The workload during election season is insane but you can make a mountain of money from the campaigns if you have an excellent reputation for this kind of analytic work. Most people that try botch it.
The polling used in the news media is mostly unserious. The campaigns use more sophisticated non-public voting models to predict outcomes and that has risen in stature with time versus polls. Even if the public may be surprised by the outcome a well-run campaign typically is not.