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I don’t think people like the principle behind it: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend,_and_extingu...

Same reason why some people are adamantly against using closed source software though at least https://github.com/VSCodium/vscodium exists.

That said, personally I use OSes like Windows or IDEs like JetBrains sometimes just because they help me get things done, it is what it is.

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Other companies don't say EEE (MS also doesn't anymore, as far as I know), but that doesn't mean they are any better. In fact, I would say that Apple is far more guilty of doing this than MS is these days. But even so, what is the alternative? If MS creates any good product, people will accuse them of being at some phase in EEE, which is unfalsifiable.

I guess the alternative would be for MS to make this great product fully FOSS, so that there wouldn’t be a problem in the first place. But ofc that isn’t realistic for a plethora of reasons.

Also not saying that MS is somehow unique or worse than Apple, or Google or whatever, they each have their good and bad bits.

It's Microsoft's actions which lose them trust, regardless of what they might state in official communications.

Actions like the C# dev kit license footgun/rug pull, the closed source remote development extensions, and training copilot on GPL while pretending that you own any code it generates.

You don't need even need a rant on the Windows team, it would be beating a dead horse.

C# dev kit is completely optional. The debugger, language server integration and all the other features that you'd expect ship with the base C# extension.

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