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And Linus’ immediate reply

https://lore.kernel.org/rust-for-linux/CAHk-=wi=ZmP2=TmHsFSU...

(not taking either side, just interesting to read the reply)

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This part of the reply exemplifies one of the big problems in the kernel community:

> You think you know better. But the current process works.

Regardless of how badly broken the kernel development process is, Linus and others observe that Linux continues to dominate and conclude that therefore the development process "works". Success in the market blinds the successful vendor to their defects. Sound familiar?

If Linux carries on down this path then eventually something else that has been subject to more evolutionary pressure will displace Linux, and we'll all be telling stories about how Linux got complacent and how it was obvious to everyone they were heading for a fall.

And honestly, with maintainers like Hellwig maybe that's what needs to happen.

Or worse: Linux is so widespread and managed to practically kill most Unix alternatives, that progress in OS development is slowed down globally. I would strongly prefer Linux being an OS with a lot of progress to stagnation and possible no alternative in the next decades.

I find this reply interesting. Linus says that what matters is technical stuff, but even before the social media brigading, the whole thread was nothing but non-technical drama. So why is Linus focused only on that and not Hellwig's behavior?

You have to be pretty clueless not to understand that Martin's is wrong here, he, and the rest of Rust bozos he clicks with should have been kicked out of the Kernel the minute they started with their social media drama... of course, drama and rust are just bound to be hand in hand.

Definitely interesting to read both sides. I think they both present compelling arguments. There's a need to ensure stability with the kernel and avoid interference with outside forces. I suppose balancing that principle with eventual change is an inevitable difficulty.

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