The insane overreach was the UK wanting data on people not in the UK
Our noble "we can't have American data in the hands of our enemies," their savage "forcing American companies to turn over user data."
I agree that the TikTok demands are pretty similar, though I might quibble over whether they're literally the same, since arrangements like that are the status quo in China but not in the US
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How is "remove foreign control of data on our nation's users" remotely the same as "give us access to foreign users' data"?
They're not even figuratively the same, despite you literally misusing that word
If by "give us access to foreign users' data", you mean TikTok, then ByteDance is only required to sell the US portion of TikTok to American buyers. If you mean iCloud, then Apple is only required to keep Chinese users' data on local servers.
"give us access to foreign users' data" referred to what the UK is asking for, I thought the post i was replying to was equating the UK's request to the US'
in other words, you store much more data on a phone versus a doomscrolling app[*]
*: unless you make videos and publish PII in them :)
As a child of Portuguese revolution, I am aware of plenty of stories, apparently many folks nowadays think those are stories to scare misbehaved kids.
Note that this is not China apologia: they do the same brazen shit locally, but they're an authoritarian regime. I have lower expectations for human rights there.
George C. Parker was a conman in NYC who multiples times sold the ownership of the Brooklyn Bridge to his victims. Among other cons.
Those who are charged with stopping cyber crime are very must against this. End to End encryption is one of the better protections they can give you against foreign hackers and they want you to use it.
Meanwhile down the hall are people who are charged with investigating crimes someone in the country commits and they are want this. It is a lot easier to prove someone is involved in some crime if a warrant can get their data, but end to end encryption means they can only get random bytes. (of course they don't want warrants either, but that is a different issue not relevant here so they will specify warrants in this debate)