America's "First Car-Free Neighborhood" Is Going Pretty Good, Actually?
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> Culdesac is a far cry from "the incremental urbanism and thickening our cities need. A dozen or even a thousand Culdesacs can’t solve that problem," because they would lack long-term growth benefits including "the resilience of a system where many hands have built the neighborhood and have a financial stake in it" and would reflect "a zoning and finance stream that favors industrial over incremental production."
It's interesting that one of the most walkable, lively and beautiful urban centers —Paris—was not built this way, but was the result of a big reform by Eugene Haussmann that flattened the "previous Paris" and put his new version on top, which was extremely centrally planned.
The idea of a community incrementally building their infrastructure together based on arising needs and desires is beautiful. But it's not practical in the 2020s where housing is much harder to build due to regulation, zoning etc.
Plus this "incremental" approach can go wrong as well. People forget that for the longest time, cities had higher mortality because they just grew organically and some of that wasn't actually great for humans.
The things we see have survived for a reason. Most cities have gotten rid of A LOT of things that grew "incrementally".
I think this incremental approach is a romantic idea and more is right than wrong about it. But it's also the 2020s where housing is crazy expensive and we have higher expectations of buildings and neighborhoods.
The way I see it, it can be hard for a centrally planned approach to meet all of the needs of the residents of each area. Is there some sort of way to adapt the incremental approach for the modern era?
The central planning must increase to overcome the downsides of central planning.
Also, most of the worst parts of American development have happened since 1945.
Along the east coast there are multiple communities on islands accessible only by ferry that are foot traffic only. You can tell they're real places because they have their own U.S. Post Offices (not just mailboxes).
For example: https://villageofoceanbeach.org/about
https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/5d2a6bf9a14008...
> Except for emergency and essential services, vehicles are generally not permitted.
Funny how you apparently read the entire article.. yet you missed this from the first paragraph.
> And in the summer, there are no cars!
>> generally not permitted.
These are the kind of weasel words that mean yes. I guess you're the kind of guy that thinks boneless wings contains bones [1].
[1]: https://www.courtnewsohio.gov/cases/2024/SCO/0725/230293.asp
Despite being farther from Cambridge (a different city than Boston, so they have a different mayor), I prioritize biking to places there to meet friends or go out to dinner. It is just a much more pleasant experience than nearly anywhere in Boston proper.
[1]: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/04/us/boston-mayor-josh-kraf...
Whatever you think about all those issues, and how stupid you think the hoi polloi are, there has been a massive strategic miscalculation about which issues to focus on, and how to address them over the last number of years.
These same people are ostensibly liberal, "we're all for people riding bikes, or getting a stupid little condo, whatever you kids like to do for fun" they say, but in practice will do anything in their power to prevent any impediment to their car commute, even if their fear is at-best specious.
Same thing in Toronto. In Vancouver Canada we're a fair bit better about the bike lane thing, though it's still fragile, but in the affordable housing issue they actually just subsidized the huge home owners that already owned land, so a majority of new units that have come on the market are in their basements or backyard and can't be owned, furthering a class divide. They marginally upzoned, but now a duplex or small townhouse is over a million at the low end. There isn't an incentive to make housing less expensive except the vague sense that the municipal/regional economy will eventually collapse on someone else's watch.
I assume the real reason relates to "abuse of the commons" and the American problem of "why we can't have nice things" outside of "gated" communities.
The real reasons are 1) architects more interested in getting applause from architects for cutting-edge design instead of utilizing tried-and-true principles for humane spaces, and 2) these things are planned, designed, and built by people who will never live or work in them.
Architects design for coffee table books and developers+planners design for spreadsheets.
It only had a population of 583 permanent residents at last count, though. It's mostly a tourist destination.
The island itself is somewhat bicycle friendly if you can manage hills, but other than the touristy downtown, all the housing is spread out and definitely not what anyone would think of as walkable, especially in winter months.
Weather is only a matter of clothes. The cold might be disturbing at first but you get used to it, and a good coat keeps you safe. Plus: walking or biking keeps you warm.
(not from the US obv.)
For comparison, the average officially recognized neighborhood in San Francisco is around 3.3 km². That "neighborhood" covers around 0.07 km².
Also I imagine that because its apartment based, people are more inclined to spend time outside rather than couped up in their apartment?
I live somewhere that a car is required so the concept is foreign to me.
They look different than anything in the store so I assume they got them for themselves.
ex. https://www.amazon.com/Lifetime-Home-UPGRADED-Waterproof-Gro...
Or https://www.amazon.com/s?k=shopping+trolley
I've used something like this in the past, when not using my bicycle:
https://www.amazon.com/VEVOR-Climbing-Heavy-Duty-Telescoping...
combined with something like from here for fully 'professional' modularity:
https://www.amazon.com/s?k=ortlieb+dry+bag
They are nice to have in general, not necessarily for daily use, or shopping. Just for when something large and heavy comes, or has to go. Like fridges, washing machines, ovens, or laaarge screens :-) Can be stowed away easily for being ready just in case.
Someone who wants to get some fresh air during their lunch break.
Do it from +40C to -20C through the year. I am in my late 30s, and do not find this difficult at all.
If you go every 1-2 weeks and do a mass/bulk purchase, perhaps.
If the grocery store is between the transit stop and your home, or on your cycling route, you can pick a few things up in an ad hoc manner in smaller batches.
* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYHTzqHIngk
* "Can Groceries Be Delivered TOO Quickly?!": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpavEMVQpW8
Lots of different logistics to figure out
Might not work for absolutely everyone but it sure works for some.
A lot of the elderly become weak and fragile due to lack of exercise, not due to age. Now we expect them to drive everywhere with failing eyesight, slow reflexes, and questionable judgement, with unfortunate results.
We live in a city down the street from a grocery store. We sort of treat the store as an extended pantry. When we need to make something, we just go down to the store and get the stuff and make it. Door to door time to the store is 2-3 minutes, the lines are usually never long because it's a smaller store but they have about as much staff as a larger one.
Whenever we need to get a little more we just bring one of the carts from the store up to our apartment via the elevator and bring it back.
As for the rest of the things. Again if you can walk or take good transit there is no need to drive.
That aside, it's just working 'so so' on many lines. I prefer my bicycle mostly, when I'm there. Which opens its own can of worms, because danger of theft, or heavy weight of chains and locks, and fumbling with them. And that fucking card system of theirs, for ppl who have no Deutschland-ticket is rather stupid. Maybe I should get one, but makes no sense for only a few weeks per year (Or so I thought).
The parts of the USA I know, and live in do too.
Source: Me, determined enough.
On a more serious note, it's unfortunate that US cities aren't more walkable and there are very few places where you can survive without a car.
I'll go to the "our team" and "about us" page of the org, look at who runs it and then google them and find the interview they did five years ago in their palatial suburban estate, sitting jauntily atop a stool next to the island in their 500 square foot kitchen.
They are all hyper-rich arrogant dickheads who want the masses stacked on top of each other in habicubes where they have to listen to couples fighting, smell the stench of their neighbor's disgusting cooking, and feel constant compression from crowding shoulder to shoulder up against each other as they march from their in-office job to their tiny, cramped, habicube.
My only question is why the rich dickheads who run media outlets and non-profits obsessed with turning everyone into the renter of a high-density nightmare hovel doesn't take their own medicine?
Why are they giving interviews to Dwell or A+U about how everyone should live in a dense city from inside their gated 30,000 square foot fortress of solitude?
There's a reason that the first thing anyone, anywhere, does when they get some money is buy an SUV or (in Europe and Japan) a station wagon and move out to an American-style suburb.
Once you get out of your "hip young urban professional" or "broke-ass" phase you realize the only thing that matters is sitting by yourself in a lawn chair on your wasteful suburban Bermuda grass lawn watching the sprinkler move back and forth in peace and fucking quiet.
Maybe if you have kids, otherwise that's just self-imposed exile. Not much fun to be had in a suburb if you're loaded and childless. Lots of driving though.
Depends on what you want to do. Most childless couples I know moved away from their younger city lives. They don’t think of being “exiled” from restaurants or whatever. They’re closer to parks, hiking, friend. They’re able to do hobbies you can’t in the city like woodworking or whatever. And as for driving - it is much easier and painless away from cities. High density without matching roads makes driving painful. But low and medium density with lots of parking makes it great - driving then just becomes a means to live a high quality life.
Yep. HN and other echo chambers like Reddit are VERY bad at recognizing this reality. Almost no one wants to live in a super dense urban environment. When you are young, there is appeal to going to the newest bar or whatever, but that wears out very quickly, and then you spend the rest of your life wanting something away from people, away from small apartments in high rises. That means more space and single family homes. That means suburbia or rural areas.
And yet that's where so many people choose to live, hence that aforementioned super density. If almost no one wanted to live there it wouldn't be dense at all. Not to mention people usually pay a premium cost for that density you think they hate.
Yeah, it's called kids. The thing people keep having less of.
away from people
that's a problem caused by north american individualism. most of the rest of the world does not want to be away from people.
in china and other places that i have been to, people don't get bothered by such things, or at least they don't embarrass themselves or others by constantly complaining about it. more tolerance and friendliness would go a long way towards a friendly community that one wants to be part of and not run away from.