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This is ridiculous, just don't use a network of any kind or you'll be tracked by someone somewhere. Simple as that. Misleading people into thinking they can use these tools and be safe is dangerous. I suppose the only way to be safe is to assume you're being tracked somehow and use burners or throw aways that don't matter.

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While you’re not wrong, there’s a trade off between communication needs and security guarantees. Activism and protesting requires organization, which is effectively hampered by the inability to quickly and efficiently disseminate information.

I’ve read the EFF’s guide and it seemed reasonable for a layman. What caveats or disclaimers would you include that they haven’t already? What more do you feel could be done to make people with these needs safer while helping them pursue their goals?

Staying off the radar is the best advice I think - how to do that is the question. The thing that creeps me out is that even at the operating system level we have no idea what happens... look at Recall. I mean wow.

This advice is unhelpful. Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good. Cell phones are a useful tool for coordinating and communicating.

You need to coordinate with people. It could be as simple and necessary as getting your ride back home after the protest.

Yes, any use of the network is a risk. You take a risk just showing up. This is about mitigating risk, not eliminating it. You have to decide if it's a risk worth taking.

The only secure computer is one that's been sealed in concrete without ever being powered on?

Yeah, the reality of amateur clandestine operations is that you have to put down your phone.

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