Gittip minimum raised from $0.25 to $1.00
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Historically, Australians don't tip. During much of the the 20th century Australia had quite a strong (relative to the US) tradition of socialism and unionism, resulting in a strong set of minimum employment conditions. There was very much a view that a decent living wage was an entitlement and a matter of dignity, not something that a worker should have to stoop to collect. People didn't tip, since the common perception was that the potential tipee was as equally entitled to a minimum wage as the potential tipper. Indeed, I'd say that people actively didn't tip as an act of homage to equality.
Tipping is probably more common today than in the past, and the above is being eroded, but I think the above is still generally true. A tip is rarely expected, or let on to be expected, as that is a sure fire way not to get a tip.
I mention the above, in the supposition that it has connotations for a site like gittip that liberally uses the word "tipping". Some cultures don't do tipping. As an Australian, I'd be more inclined if the idea of compensation was being sold on a "equity" (as in fairness) basis rather than a giving basis. I know it's semantics, but semantics does influence decisions.
I hope the above is constructive.
A play on the word for domain names such as patronous.com (full of patrons) or patronian.com .
In Australia, I tip when service is awesome. In America, I tip when service isn't absolutely terrible.
Full disclosure: I am Australian
With that said, I have followed these discussions, and I think this may be the wrong approach. I think that you should implement a balance transfer feature. This would prevent a lot of the money from getting eaten up by processing fees. Once that is implemented, you should just leave the amount up to the user, no mins, no maxes. If someone thinks that $0.25/wk is too small, then they are free to tip more. But at $0.25/wk, that comes out to $13/yr. At $1/wk, that is $52/yr. I am a man of modest, yet comfortable means, and giving some people ~$10/yr to support their cause is well within my discretionary budget, but at ~$50/yr, that starts setting off my internal 'frugal' alarms, especially if I want to donate to more than one project.
https://github.com/whit537/www.gittip.com/issues/180
I rolled that out today, so if you wanted it, go use it. :^)
Just as a heads-up: Google "gittip minimum raised from" or search Twitter for the same (http://twitter.com/#!/search/gittip%20minimum%20raised%20fro...) ... there's a collective audience of tens of thousands of people, any of whom could be seeing Gittip for the first time from this submission. Linking to a blog post, even a very brief one, might be better for picking up new interest in the future.
I feel like I'm being a pain in the ass between this and yesterday's grousing over needing a Github account. Sorry about that.
Definitely could do a better job of converting traffic. Don't feel like I have that nailed yet. :-/
Any page where I can land and be asked to log in should do a better job of saying what you do, especially where trust is involved.
As soon as I saw 'log in' I immediately returned to HN comments to find out what was going on. Many people won't have that luxury, or patience.
For instance, I'd love to go to a site like this and give $100 to whoever is the most active contributor in glib who is accepting contributions.
I generally don't know people's github account names. Digging it up is a pain.
https://github.com/whit537/www.gittip.com/issues/14
Basically I'm open to it if the bitcoin are transparently converted to dollars.
Code talks. ;-)
must donations be recurring? why can't send one-off donations? also, at the risk of sounding vein, must the donations be anonymous? these things are keeping me from giving my money to people.
https://github.com/whit537/www.gittip.com/issues/5
Donations are anonymous in the particulars but public in aggregate on the homepage by default.
If you can't turn off a recurring donation, then that just upped the giver's commitment level from "chicken" to "pig".
If you can turn off a recurring donation, then at least there is a work around for much shorter runs, like... 1 week. :)
https://www.gittip.com/about/me.html
You can also turn off gifts entirely without actually forgetting them by deleting your credit card:
https://www.gittip.com/credit-card.html
Is that satisfactory?
gittip is more like a recurring research grant than a traditional salary. if i'm not dictating the work i'm paying for, i think it makes sense to know who, as a maintainer, your supporters are.
Freshbooks Integration?
I'm a member of the Long Now Foundation, which charges a small amount to me every month. I've almost certainly donated more to them in this way than I would have in a one-time payment, and yet it still feels less painful to me. Win-win.
Gittip looks to me like it's trying to be more than just a reward system ... it's trying to be another way to sustain active contributors to open source.
Keeping the donations anonymous helps keep people from expecting to have leverage over open source contributors, which I think is a good idea.
I was curious about your payment processor since you're working as a marketstyle service. For reference on a project I'm working on, were there any hurdles to getting such an account? Also, how do you plan to handle chargebacks?
Edit: Apparently there are some staff bios on the Community Page. Founded 2010. Is anyone familiar with other start-ups using them as well?
It says that because it is not an EV SSL certificate. go to amazon if you want to see the same message, but from a verisign (non EV) cert.
this is a certificate that only validates the full domain name but has no info about the company: http://www.thawte.com/ssl/ssl123-ssl-certificates/index.html
this has also the company name inside the cert: http://www.thawte.com/ssl/web-server-ssl-certificates/index....
and this is the Extended Validation one: http://www.thawte.com/ssl/extended-validation-ssl-certificat...
Tipically the price of this certificate grows from one type to the other and also the required documents/paperwork changes (if you register a simple fqdn certificate many times the procedure is completely automated, if you register a certificate with the company inside, or an EV cert, you must send relevant documentation about your company)
Having said that, I would expect this kind of businesses to have at least a certificate with company details inside, or better an EV cert..
The site seal with a popup that includes the company details is not what me nor the op are referring to.
https://www.balancedpayments.com/community
That page was put up in the past week or so, and the whole thing was rebranded from PoundPay a month or two ago--right about the time I started talking to them. Here's an etherpad where a lot of our initial conversation took place, with some additional background and info:
I've worked with 3 different merchant account providers over the past 8 years. All of them, in the end, ended up costing more than twice the rates they originally quoted when I applied. Downgrading most cards to higher fee schedules, having a dozen fees 3rd party processors simply build into their flat rate, and the ability to raise rates every month for years can add up to a very high effective transaction rate.
PayPal, once you pass $10000/mo for the 2.2% tier, is currently my cheapest processor when you factor in all the processing, gateway and monthly fees. I still accept credit cards directly for various reasons, so I'm trying to move off directly storing cards in Authorize.net's CIM to a service like SpreedlyCore that will let me switch merchant account providers without losing my current customer billing info.
2. Read your contract. First Data (and every other processor I've ever dealt with) gives 30-days to withdrawl from the contract when they send their notice of rate increase.
3. Did you look over the interchange matrix first data gave you? It's pretty clear on what you need to submit to receive the qualified rate.
4. Authnet gateway? I like their gateway too... but it's an added and unnecessary expense. First Data has a gateway that you can get them to include for free (although you will have to do your job and negotiate for it).
5. authnet CIM? For a few thousand dollars in hardware, you can store the card data yourself... unless you're dealing with a small number of transactions, you're going to have to do this anyway.
Yes, I know dealing with credit card processing is a pain.. but the above? You're just tossing money out the window.
Of course, the fact that Balanced is contributing significant code and momentum to Gittip also has to be accounted for.
I've got a conversation going with Braintree to get another "real merchant account," but with Balanced contributing code, and Braintree only half the solution (still need ACH), and getting burned by FirstData ... what's my incentive?
http://blog.gittip.com/post/25565694263/how-not-to-get-acqui...
I migrated to Stripe, who have an awesome product, but they asked me to leave because I'm running a marketplace and that's outside their bank agreements. I was casting about for options when Balanced came along and offered to contribute the integration with their product. They've been very respectful of Gittip as an open community and its turning into quite an interesting relationship. Hoping to do a write-up on the blog soon.
Truth be told I still have it in mind to vault cards over at SpreedlyCore or something like it just to be safe, but I haven't been able to prioritize that yet.
Give it a shot with some test creds (see below). You can go live directly from the site: https://balancedpayments.com
# create a test marketplace
curl -X POST https://api.balancedpayments.com/v1/api_keys
# retrieve and store the secret for subsequent commands
curl -X POST https://api.balancedpayments.com/v1/marketplaces -u $SECRET: