From moxie.org:
"Given the history of why web1 became web2, what seems strange to me about web3 is that technologies like ethereum have been built with many of the same implicit trappings as web1. To make these technologies usable, the space is consolidating around… platforms. Again. People who will run servers for you, and iterate on the new functionality that emerges. Infura, OpenSea, Coinbase, Etherscan."
They also make this point:
"I think this is very similar to the situation with email. I can run my own mail server, but it doesn’t functionally matter for privacy, censorship resistance, or control – because GMail is going to be on the other end of every email that I send or receive anyway."
For a variety of reasons, people have not felt that it is worthwhile to fight for decentralization.
Bluesky arrived at the right time, unlike Mastodon.
Bluesky does have some advantages like starter packs (and network effect now that it has so many accounts).
No he doesn't ask, you're wrong.
And there is no single one alternative server where we can register and interact with people on bsky.app
It's not very prominent, but the Android mobile app does have the option to change what server you register on.
You can tap on the bold "Bluesky Social" text to change it.
> And there is no single one alternative server where we can register and interact with people on bsky.app
You absolutely can host a PDS that interacts flawlessly with the rest of the network. I host my own. There's an entire section in the README about self-hosting: https://github.com/bluesky-social/pds?tab=readme-ov-file#sel...
In any case, my previous comment is wrong indeed.
This is all totally going to change when OAuth rolls out, so hopefully we can find a better compromise then.
No, it does not.
Bluesky by default creates account on bsky.social, while there's barely noticeable button with icon that allows you to provide another server.
An ordinary user will head to what it'll find in the search results, fill out credentials and log in. It won't change the defaults if it actually notice there's a possibility to do that at all. Not mention a mass user needs to be aware in the first place that there are other instances/servers, and you can interoperate with these just like with email providers. Neither mastodon or bluesky explains that in a simple discoverable fashion - which IMO should be done long ago.
so the slick registration flow nets you less lock-in compared to if e.g. the mainstream Mastodon app were funnelling users onto one megainstance, since you can still get away afterwards without needing people to re-follow you
In fact Mastodon had a better chance than BlueSky ever had, but had a significantly worse onboarding experience.
Mastodon was there at the right time, (Nov 2022) but was extremely unprepared to onboard millions of users simultaneously and more people were left confused on how to use the platform or even how to create an account or "which instance" to sign up to.
This is the obvious reason why BlueSky succeeded and took off, as predicted. [0]
Mastodon needs to be more streamlined.
Yes, Bluesky is more centralized, but I feel like it is decentralized in the ways that matter for a Twitter/X Alternative use case :
- Self hosting of data, easy migration - Automatic verification via DNS - Custom feeds, Custom moderation, but you can still use the official ones
I'm sure a big reason for this the possibility for abuse, since "migrating" an account is a different action than simply "creating" a new one
[0]: https://github.com/bluesky-social/pds/blob/main/ACCOUNT_MIGR...
Nostr is the way. It will take time but it's sufficiently decentralized. Doesn't require DNS. Users hold their own keys. Fairly easy to run a relay. It's also a trust network, with encryption out of the box, so I think it will become a usable successor for email+GPG.
> Email is horribly centralized
You’re seeing the downsides of decentralization not the result of centralization. There’s ~100’s of thousands of independently operated email servers, but nobody is directly forcing people to listen to everyone else. Instead they must stay reasonably open because the cloud didn’t win, work school and emails are still frequently independent.
This is an absolute killer for mainstream adoption. Normal people _absolutely do not want to manage keys_. And will lose them. Like, see Bitcoin; relatively enthusiast user base, and still people lose keys _all the time_.
The model of "identity backed by domain ownership" is a nice one, and deals with the Mastodon identity portability issue.
I see no NIP for node incentives, perhaps this should be discussed further.
We in tech have not even made a 1-click port everything to somewhere else please button (need to build the somewhere else too).
There’s a lot of work to be done.
I mean, just now I went to Bluesky's web homepage and what I saw is "discover" pointing me to "influencers"...