Comment by lelanthran | Hacker News Reader

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> I knew a few Rep voters who went like "Project 2025 is not affiliated with Trump, and even if, that's good, because fuck the LGBT"

> * last part added by me, but that's how their attitude was...

I think the problem is one of a non-united grouping - Most people are accepting of L, G and B, but not T.

The actual L and G friends I have (Don't have any B friends; or if I do, I don't know about it) individually try to distance themselves from the T.

There would have been much less for Trump to mudsling on if the opposition simply dropped support for T while keeping L, G and B.

Having LGBT as a single block that you are either for or against is stupid because while most people would be either neutral or positive about L, G and B, the clear majority of people are not neutral on the proposals from the T camp.

Trans rights are human rights. You cannot support one not supporting another.

And what are those "human" rights exactly?

There is no right to pronouns or to being referred to in whatever way you want. In fact, policing that kind of thing is an infringement on other people's right to free speech either.

There is no right to expensive surgeries either, especially cosmetic ones.

There is also no right to deciding which bathroom you get to go to.

Please be precise which rights you think are "human rights" and why.

This is why we can’t have nice things.

You don’t have to use pronouns if you don’t want to.

Why do you care if another human’s happiness is centered on gender identity?

No one has ever been assaulted by a trans but every day there’s another report of a pastor or priest molesting children.

“life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness” is in our declaration of independence.

> You don’t have to use pronouns if you don’t want to.

I'm pretty certain that that is not true. Language policing was a big problem - "use the wrong pronoun and lose your job" is not a meaningful choice to many people.

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