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Facebook Opens First International Engineering Office In London

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Something I noticed is that the London job pages list holiday amounts but the US job listings don't. Does anyone know what Facebook PTO is like for US employees?

Its 21 days per year.

Plus normal national holidays in the US (I think there are 11 of them).

It will be less, guarantee it! The Facebook holiday amounts are not unusual for the UK, which mandates by law 28 days including bank holidays. A fair amount of employers offer 25 + bank holidays (of which there are normally 8~9).

Having to move to the US or to London - can't decide which is worse.

Why do you think it's so bad? I'm currently looking for an internship in London

I have a love-hate relationship with London. It's crowded, dirty, unfriendly, expensive, the weather is bad (like the rest of the UK) and the taxes are high (unless you are from NW Europe). That said, I keep coming back here. It's the best place for work experience, and full of opportunity. It's hard work, nothing is easy here, but if you put in the effort you get the reward.

Self selecting and perpetually reinforcing population of young people living a certain life style you have to adopt to fit in... Or I could stop beating about the bush and flat out say it's just too cut-throat, crime-ridden and debauched for my liking. There's also pollution, traffic, over-population, poor living conditions (even adjusted for the increased salary) and crime (worth mentioning twice). At that point, it matters little how vibrant, exciting and full of opportunities it might be.

Paul_S - you realize how big London is, right? Its not all bad. Perhaps you'd be more happy on a prairie?

Isn't this the same for most big cities though? I'm not a massive fan of London, it's just where I have to work, but I think you'd find the same amount of crime and over-priced flats in places like NY.

There were two replies at the time I started writing this. I actually find it funny how different a city can be for different people. Personally, London quickly become my favourite city (New York City used to be the previous favourite one). Unlike one of the other replies, I find London to be much more safe than usual for a big European city, I never felt this safe in a big city before. I also never had such a good overall quality of life before coming to live here. You can be whoever you want to be on any given day since there's so many people here noone will notice you changed if you really want to try something new. Given the salary you can get over here, I even find London cheaper than most other big cities (for example, supermarket food seems to cost around the same as the cheapest big cities in Europe yet my salary is way bigger over here). Obviously some things are crazy expensive like public transports and taxis.

The article doesn't say where in London the office is.

The careers page [1] says Covent Garden.

[1] https://www.facebook.com/careers/locations/london

"By Carnaby St in Soho."

http://thenextweb.com/uk/2011/08/01/facebook-secures-new-off...

That was a sales office which opened a while ago. Right next to a great American diner place, ironically.

What diner?

(I'm an American who works off Carnaby)

"The Diner" (original name!) - http://www.carnaby.co.uk/store/the-diner

Ahh... I thought you were going to say Bodeans. Haven't tried The Diner but, I have been to Mother Mash a few times; right next door.

I live on the corner of Carnaby and Great Marlborough. We should grab lunch one day. Same applies to any more HN'ers in my stomping grounds!

Hey - used to work on great Marlborough @ Blyk. Number 53-5x if I remember rightly.

Live?!?! How do you cope with all of the tourists! (Nice stomping grounds btw :-) )

I can probably see your flat from my offices front door. I work next to Le Pain (not the hotel but, you can guess pretty easily)

Is there a London HN or a (SOHO London HN Meeting)?

It's not so bad. I quite like the buzz to be honest. I guess you work for a company beginning with a T or a S?

There is a London HN meetup, one of my friends runs it.

Drop me a line: stevie <-AT-> twilio.com

"A stones throw from Seven Dials", having moved out from Carnaby Street. Its a 36,000sq ft listed building, probably fairly easy to work out which one by looking I would guess. Near Mozilla's new office and Yahoo! but sufficiently far from Google...

http://arifdurrani.mediaweek.co.uk/2012/04/25/inside-faceboo...

I've never understood why companies do this. Twitter opened a small office in London and never said where it was.

London is massive, and there are certain areas that tech/digital people want to work in. Covent Garden - probably yes. Shoreditch - yes. I think Twitter ended up somewhere near Blackfriars which is just full of legal suit drones.

If you're opening an office in London, and you've done your research, you need to PR the hell out of the location!

I thought twitter basically ended up moving international head office to Ireland not London so the London office is tiny. Facebook wants developers so has to be a bit more visible, while Twitter was just a sales office. Guessing Facebook will do events there soon.

As for the article, it is just not very thorough. See this comment for location and link to article about it. Its a high budget office. http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4289895

Twitter definitely have an engineering presence in London, because I've been hit up for Android referrals by their recruiters. I have a feeling Twitter's London based engineering team is a result of the TweetDeck acquisition.

Re: Blackfriars - it's not a totally nuts location for a mobile engineering team, because it's where Symbian's offices are/were. Lot of mobile engineering talent already commuting to the area.

This is great. Maybe more companies will follow.

Great, maybe now I will accept their job offers. ;)

Moving from Europe to the US was a little too much for me. But London is just around the corner.

Good move, FB.

Spreading like a cancer I see.

Eating more programmer's souls.

First thing that comes to mind is integration with UK govt.

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