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I think OpenAI really needs to rethink its product naming, especially now that they have a portfolio where there's no such clear hierarchy, but they have a place along different axis (speed, cost, reasoning, capabilities, etc).

Your summary attempt e.g. also misses o3-mini vs o3-mini-high. Lots of trade-ofs.

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Can't wait for the eventual rename to GPT Core, GPT Plus, GPT Pro, and GPT Pro Max models!

I can see it now:

> Unlock our industry leading reasoning features by upgrading to the GPT 4 Pro Max plan.

I think I'll wait for the GTI model myself.

Oh, I'll probably wait for GPT 4 Pro Max v2 NG (improved)

OpenAI chatGPT Pro Max XS Core, not to be confused with ChatGPT Max S Pro Net Core X, or ChatGPT Pro Max XS Professional CoPilot Edition.

ngl I'd find that easier to follow lol

Had the same problem while trying to decide which Roborock device to get. There's the S series, Saros series, Q Series and the Qrevo. And from the Qrevo, there's Qrevo Curv, Edge, Slim, Master, MaxV, Plus, Pro, S and without anything. The S Series had S8, S8+, S8 Pro Ultra, S8 Max Ultra, S8 MaxV Ultra. It was so confusing.

I ordered the wrong xbox on amazon once. Wanted the series X, got the one X instead

Which one did you pick?

Careful what you wish for. Next thing you know they're going to have names like Betsy and be full of unique quirky behavior to help remind us that they're different people.

It's like AWS SKU naming (`c5d.metal`, `p5.48xlarge`, etc.), except non-technical consumers are expected to understand it.

Have you seen Azure VM SKU naming? It's.. impressive.

And it doesn’t even line up with the actual instances you’ll be offered. At one point I was using some random Nvidia A10 node that was supposed to be similar to Standard_NV36adms_A10_v5, but was an NC series for some reason with slightly different letters…

Those are not names but hashes used to look up the specs.

I was thinking we might treat model names analogously, but their specs can be moving targets.

Did they even think about what happens when they get to o4? We’re going to have GPT-4o and o4

They’ll call it GPT-XP. But first we need gpt-o3.11 for workgroups.

They're strongly tied to Microsoft, so confusing branding is to be expected.

One of my favorite parodies: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUXnJraKM3k

I can't wait for Project Unify which just devolves into a brand new p3-mini type naming convention. It's pretty much identical to the o3-mini, except the API is changed just enough to be completely incompatible and it crashes on any query using a word with more than two syllables. Fix coming soon, for 4 years so far.

On the bright side the app now has curved edges!

It needs to be clowned on here:

- Xbox, Xbox 360, Xbox One, Xbox One S/X, Xbox Series S/X

- Windows 3.1...98, 2000, ME, XP, Vista, 7, 8, 10

I guess it's better than headphones names (QC35, WH-1000XM3, M50x, HD560s).

Flashbacks of the .NET zoo. At least they reigned that in.

They can still do models o3o, oo3 and 3oo. Mini-o3o-high, not to be confused with mini-O3o-high (the first o is capital).

You’re thinking too small. What about o10, O1o, o3-m1n1?

They should just start encoding the model ID in trinary using o, O, and 0.

Model 00oOo is better than Model 0OoO0!

Yeah I tried my best :(

I think they could've borrowed a page out of Apple's book, even mountain names would be better. Plus Sonoma, Ventura, and Yosemite are cool names.

Yeah their naming scheme is super confusing, I honestly confuse them all the time.

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