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VMWare is Back And It Looks Like the Old VMWare

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Well... I just hope it gets cheaper and/or licensing becomes easier.

At work, among our infrastructure are just two servers that I really want to get FT working on... the foundation packs don't seem to cover FT, so, it is a jump up to two server licenses + 1 VCenter license at over 10k in total!

There is such a jump from their starter kits to the full thing if you just want a couple of features!

...Don't even get me started on their USD <> GBP exchange rate! - http://i.imgur.com/KWOHH.png

Looking in to Hyper-V right now...

New VMware is probably more expensive than old vmware and it's expensive enough already. Every portrayed advantage of virtualisation is not cost effective when you have to pay their extortionate prices. Xen/KVM and HyperV have a serious advantage.

For ref, I currently have to babysit a large vsphere installation (44 hosts) and it's a money pit.

You are right! I think democratizing virtualization and lowering prices has to be at the top of their priority list.

Why would it be? Their customers are almost exclusively medium to large enterprises. They have no incentive to lower prices, nor to get smaller entities into the game.

I am not sure about that. The medium business virtualization market seems to be wide open fro disruption. Until now, most players have focused on large enterprises.

It is worth the price if you need the features. If Running a few VMs on a server there is no reason to pay 6k for vSphere.

We run around 400 VMs across 44 (big scary) servers and I find that VMware only exists as a cop out for bad planning and bad architecture, albeit more cost effective than fixing it. It also shoots you periodically like 2Tb LUN size on our vSphere meaning we had to introduce mega-frigs to breach a 2Tb filesystem like NTFS links and sharding. 2Tb isn't much.

I think most enterprises are using as a big sticky plaster.

It has a few really nice use cases (legacy one-off winxp servers running software from defunct vendors, rhel3 host for old image software aquired by adobe and shelved? perfect in both cases), but the other stuff I've seen it put to has been horrible. jboss on linux on hundreds of hosts converted into a big blob of jvms running in vms...there's no point in giving up that much hardware when the number and config of the servers remains so consistent, and thanks to balloon memory vmware keeps stealing ram from the vms. it's a lot of money to solve the "I need a virtual kvm" problem(?)

That wouldn't be that horrid Adobe forms thing that sits on JBoss would it? (we have a VM for that!)

If Vmware would offer Softwareraid with esx(i) i will consider it for my customers

consider biting the bullet and buying a 300 dollar adaptec card. It makes your life infinitely easier than trying to monkey with LSI/ soft raid.

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