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> Not that one is better than the other per-se.

Smoking weed is CLEARLY, OVERWHELMINGLY better than smoking tobacco by being less addictive and MUCH less likely to cause various cancers.

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Yes, but too often people hear that and sub in "harmless", which it's absolutely not. "Better than tobacco" is one of the easiest bars for any drug to clear, and weed is not by any stretch of the imagination harmless:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBRaI0ZeAf8

Nothing is really completely harmless if you think about it - but I agree that weed is more dangerous than it’s made out to be often. I think the same applies to every socially accepted drug, such as coffee, alcohol, ibuprofen etc

Yeah, "nothing is really completely harmless" is used to justify all kinds of harm. Nothing is completely harmless, but some things are more harmful than others, and at least with adolescents weed isn't even in the same ballpark as coffee or ibuprofen.

I never said it’s in the same ballpark, i literally agreed with you but feel free to apply any kind of bad faith logic to what I wrote

I wasn't even necessarily talking about your perspective specifically and didn't mean this to get at all personal. Sorry it came off that way.

The substance can cause psychotic breaks in certain people and terrifying out of body experiences and paranoia in others (I'm in the second category). Long term use negatively affects emotional processing and sleep quality.

It's a harmful drug whose harms are simply on another order than tobacco (psychological wellbeing).

I don't really buy this or any other argument made for the virtues of an otherwise pretty terrible drug.

I wonder, if one smoked one joint per hour (like tobacco) for 30 years, what the end game would be?

But no one does that.

Smoking is still bad, weed or tobacco or crack or whatever. I think cannabis is plenty addictive.

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