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This is partially why Apple is the one that stands to gain more, and it showed. Their "small models, on device" approach can only be perfected with something like DeepSeek, and they're not exposed to NVIDIA pricing, nor have to prove investors that their approach is still valid.

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Until AGI removes the need for iOS.

Apple is not immune to AI disruption.

The Rabbit R1 was a scam but the concept was the right approach. It was just 5 years too early.

You don’t need an iPhone with AGI. You just need a 5G device with a screen, connected to an AGI.

I don't disagree, but

>You don’t need an iPhone with AGI. You just need a 5G device with a screen, connected to an AGI.

..it seems that that is exactly what the iPhone 20 or whatever will be?

Surely its just a watch.

I keep seeing this argument, but I don't buy it at all. I want a phone with an AGI, not a phone that is only AGI. Often it's just easier to press a button rather than talk to an AI, regardless how smart it is. I have no interest in natural language being the only interface to my device, that sounds awful. In public, I want to preserve my privacy. I do not want to have everyone listening in on what I'm doing.

If we can create an AGI that can literally read my mind, okay, maybe that's a better interface than the current one, but we are far away from that scenario.

Until then, I'm convinced users will prefer a phone with AI functionalities rather than the reverse. It's easier for a phone company to create such a phone than it is for an AI company.

> You don’t need an iPhone with AGI. You just need a 5G device with a screen, connected to an AGI.

no the fuck i don't need that. how do you know what i need?

Perennial reminder that we do not have any real evidence that we are anywhere close to AGI, or that "throwing more resources at LLMs" is even theoretically a possible way to get to an AGI.

"Lots of people with either a financial motivation to say so or a deep desire for AGI to be real Soon™ said they can do it" is not actual evidence.

We do not know how to make an AGI. We do not know how to define an AGI. It is hypothetically possible that we could accidentally stumble into one, but nothing has actually shown that, and counting on it is a fool's bet.

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