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DeepSeek probably can't compete with Open Ai in terms of scaling their data centers due to the bans, so why bother?

If they did not open source it and instead just launched a payed (albeit much cheaper) closed model with similar performance to O1, would people trust them?

I don't think DeepSeek has any malicious intent, but boy oh boy am I glad the USA boys get wrekt by this (though I also lose money on stocks).

This is just poetic justice for the Orange Man's backwards 17th century policies.

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Yes, same here. As a European, I used to feel we (USA and Europe) were on the same side, the West, since they/you did save us from the baddies 70 years ago...

But who's the baddies now? China is not waging war everywhere. Or threatening to steal Greenland... Or ruining our teenagers with social media.

Okay maybe they do too, with TikTok. But still.

> But who's the baddies now?

Russia is currently invading Europe, to the tune of hundreds of thousands KIA. And Russia's invasion would be dead in the water without Chinese support.

> And Russia's invasion would be dead in the water without Chinese support

To paraphrase the Chinese rep on the UN. If China indeed supported Russia, then this war would have ended by now.

There are obviously degrees of support. Sure, China could support Russia more than they are now, but they'd be risking their ability to trade with Europe and the US, so they don't.

Agree with the other commenter here re: degrees of support. If the US had fully supported Ukraine the war would also be over (unless China stepped in to help their nominal ally)

Very lopsided support. US and allies offered heavy munitions, HIMARS, Jetfighters. What did China give to Russia aside of FPV drones, Holosun optics and Baofeng radios? I'd say if China also sent Type 99, PCL 181, PCL 191 and scores of AEWC drones then it's all over.

Russia is obviously has a very strong military, but economically they are dwarfs. And if you subtract natural resources they are basically irrelevant. China and the US are economically dominating everything.

The biggest trade partner of China is US...

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