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This is unfair comparison to Proton as it is bundled with their VPN, Calendar, Drive, and Password manager. Given all it comes with, it's very competitively priced. Additionally, they've been at it a long time and built a strong brand around privacy.

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But you can’t debundle those — you cannot get ProtonMail (which doesn’t have IMAP) without ProtonCalendar (which doesn’t have CalDAV), ProtonVPN, Proton Password Manager, and an expanding suite of services I already have solutions for that I like better. Being cheaper and only doing mail is a huge plus.

ProtonMail has IMAP via ProtonMail Bridge, which handles the decrypt/encrypt step locally - not sure how else it would be implemented. Ideas?

they offer a web client, so, they already have decryption keys for your email. They should just offer IMAPS like everybody else and stop pretending they couldn’t read your email if they wanted to.

They say[1] they only store subject line and to/from addresses accessible to them.

This should be sufficient to implement a web client which does client-side decryption of the content, in which case they indeed could not read the contents.

And they do have the IMAP bridge, I've been using it for a year with Thunderbird without any issues so far.

[1]: https://proton.me/support/proton-mail-encryption-explained

The client-side decryption works by using a key sent by protonmail. Proton has this key, because they sent it to you.

You can import your own encryption key though.

It looks like standalone Proton Mail might still be available:

https://proton.me/mail/pricing

Oh didn't know that. And at $10/month. So the same price as in this advertisement pretending to be a blog post.

.. umm no

Proton $10 per month Purely $10 per year.

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