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Seems like a reasonable alternative to Proton for multiple domains: email that costs money instead of being haunted by AI.

That logo is creepy though, and implies exactly the opposite.

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Haunted by AI? I haven’t heard of problems with Proton outside of their calendar implementation, which I’ve heard they’re fixing this year.

They have an optional writing assistant thing that uses their own in-house model. Sweden is mostly hydro and nuclear, so the environmental arguments against generative AI don't hold up very well.

Proton is Swiss, not Swedish

Late night mixup. Switzerland is also substantially hydro, nuclear, and renewables and headed toward eliminating fossil fuels, so the point still stands. It doesn't contribute to the crisis in the way most generative AI does.

They also ran their datacenters on 100% renewables as of 3 years ago: https://old.reddit.com/r/ProtonMail/comments/pa76za/is_proto...

oh lmao , I had just watched a video where people were confusing sweden and swiss (heck the swiss president missaid switzerland to sweden lmao)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0oNX_BHgi3c

I was like , okay nobody confuses swiss and sweden but here you are!

It's the insidious sw

Fastmail seems to let me have unlimited domains for like $5/mo

Which is 6 times more than purelymail.

Their comparison of themselves to Proton is rather deceptive. If you're willing have only 1GB of storage, instead of 3GB, you can get proton for free. And at the price they list ($48/yr), you'd get 15GB storage, plus a lot more. And no, I was not paid by proton to say this. I only have the free plan.

This claim is also rather deceptive because the free proton mail does not allow custom domain. To get your own domain with proton you have to get 4usd/month plan.

Proton does not allow you to use standard protocols (IMAP/SMTP), which is a deal-breaker for me.

They have a bridge app for normal protocols, though I have had problems with it losing content IDs on attachments

Protonmail doesn’t support IMAP which is something wish I knew before migrating

might be a freemason thing

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