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TokenVerse: Multi-Concept Personalization in Token Modulation Space by Google

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Feels like a moodboarding multiplier for some design disciplines, if these aren't cherry-picked / transfer to other domains.

Pretty interesting.

Seems like you could apply similar ideas to text too.

Not just a moodboard if you can highlight the words you want in your output.

Something like this could make creatives feel more in control and less averse to AI image generation.

This looks like an excellent step towards being able to apply consistency to generated images across a series.

It looks as if it would trivially integrate into Whisk, which already has a similar feature for defining an outputs “subjects” “scene” and “style”.

“Code coming soon” from Google means basically never.

I don’t understand why they keep making these announcements and then just sitting on the results.

This is an immediately commercially useful product even as an API. You could make a mobile app for kids to “create their own cartoon story”.

Someone else will have to reproduce this for it to see the light of day.

I have the same feeling but I wonder if it's actually true. Do we have any examples of announcements where the code was never released?

We might eventually see the code for the models and inference, but I do doubt we’ll see training code or be granted access to training data. Google is pretty bad at this.

Any update?

My eyes are so tired... I read it as "TolkienVerse" (wishful thinking took over actual letters I guess) and I thought WOW!!!!! that is amazing!!!! When I clicked and saw "a dog wearing a hat".. uff...

Seems good tool for automated PowerPoint generation but I believe the content is much more important.

So why not automate the attachment of images to concentrate on the more important tasks? I hope the code will be available soon!

Looks like it lets you transfer textures, poses, and general "vibe of object" stuff, but still doesn't let you control composition.

Overall the example images still look like overly corporate slop.

Storytelling with characters is a huge selling point

If it worked with people, they’d show people.

The second example in the "Results" section includes a human.

They do not show a realistic photo face transfer. They blur out the faces even.

It would be a huge invention, but they did not achieve that.

Below the first Results header is a carousel of images. If you tap the arrows you can explore — I believe there are three examples where the final image is a person who’s face was applied from a reference photo.

Yes. But. The reference photo is blurred. The smallest details matter for faces! That's the whole point. I have no doubt you can do a kind-of-looks-like faces. But this is the same issue since Dreambooth. All the IP transfer approaches, even the best like Ideogram's, are failing on faces.

There's two images where the face is transferred to the final image. The references images with blurred faces are all being used for a different reference; the pose, or "necklace", etc. The faces are blurred in every image unless they explicitly want the face transferred to the final image, at least that's how it seems.

I know. But there are no unblurred source images of faces. This isn't complicated.

https://token-verse.github.io/results/multi_concepts/25.png

https://token-verse.github.io/results/multi_concepts/06.png

Both of these show a man's face in a source image being used in a newly generated image. I agree that it isn't complicated, but you seem to be drawing different conclusions to everyone else here.

If your point is that it can't perform face transfer, you seem to be wrong - that's what's happening here. If your point is that the blurred photos used for other parts of the input mean that this suggests the model may get confused by other faces, then that's a fair point, but it seems clear they have demonstrated face transfer, and requiring blurring irrelevant faces seems a minor point compared to transferring the face that's intended. I'm not sure how that would really impact use-cases.

Well. If they had working face / human character transfer, listen, my dude, every single image would show a face transfer. It's one of the biggest challenges.

Hot take: there are no legitimate use cases for human face transfer.

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