Using eSIMs with devices that only have a physical SIM slot via a 9eSIM SIM car

Of course this would be immensely useful. For example, can I put this in my vehicle with built in maps (or just have a hotspot in my vehicle to use with a tablet). As a price comparison, in the us there are some EVs that charge $100/year for basically this, most charge a lot more. That's $8.33/month, so only a bit more than $6 or 7. But in the us it's hard or impossible get anything that low for just raw service, I can't find anything like that.

Yes. I paid 5 €/month for LIDL Connect for 1 GB. I don't need much mobile data and in just a few months the cost of the adapter is amortized. It might also come handy in the future if I travel abroad.

The stated reason is because you can call premium services and run up a charges even with a free service.

I ordered a 5ber yesterday, and waiting for it to arrive.

The only issue I've had with it is that some esim provider apps refuse to work on a phone that doesn't have esim capabilities, and since the phone sees the card as a normal sim card, the apps don't work. I assume that will be an issue for any of these cards. Not a huge issue though, most esim apps/websites will still let you get the QR code or download the profile even if your phone doesn't natively support esim, and you just enter that into the esim.me app to program the card.

Another 5 EUR down to tube because I only had 4,95 for my 5 EUR plan.

Dunno why I put my SIM card in first but I guess I had to for some reason (was on wifi and had access to a computer)

1. Do I need to show a passport yes/no?

2. Who sells the sim? Do I need to sit in a queue to purchase one? How do I top up?

3. Who is the best telco provider in the region I'm in?

4. etc etc

I'd prefer eSIM all day for that reason. Also, yes I can load up as many local/region eSIMs I want in case I need more, but honestly 20GB is plenty for a full year.

Hotspotting is great for 1 or 2 devices, but devices are reluctant to connect to a personal hotspot automatically (Apple devices, at least). You have to manually select/tap the hotspot every time, which gets to be a pain when you have multiple devices and you're using it as your daily, primary internet connection.

I might also want to leave the house/hotel room/office for whatever reason with my phone but keep other devices connected. In this case the router can either be fixed in place (and plugged in) or travel with me on battery. Flexibility!

https://dl.gl-inet.com/release/router/testing/e750/4.3.21

   Fixed the problem that esim manage page is lost after installing some esim profiles.

Fortunately, as far as I remember at least iPhones route VoWiFi traffic over a VPN, if any is connected, so that's one way to still use it abroad.

Once it's enqueued in an SMSC, there is no more distinction between how it got there, as far as I understand (at least downstream from there; delivery reports to the sender might again be proprietary for non-mobile senders).

> The non-standard methods work fine if you're connected to the network directly but if you're overseas that will not be the case and so you can't receive these non-standard messages.

This is actually not particular to the way in which SMS have been enqueued, but rather to how they're delivered: The sending SMSC has to "dial" pretty deep into both the recipient's home and visited network in the original implementation. This means that they need a commercial agreement and technical integration with both of them.

Usually, problems/inconsistencies occur when they do know how to deliver to the recipient number's home network (because if they can't, they'd probably have rejected the message at SMSC submission time), but are then redirected to a given visited network with which they don't have interconnectivity.

This problem (and some others, including serious privacy concerns) is solved by a newer technology called "SMS home routing". In that model, there's something like a proxy in the recipient's home network that essentially poses as the receiving phone to the sending SMSC, and then uses the home network's resources to do actual delivery. This usually leads to more consistent experiences, and allows things like a "received message log". (Without a home router, the recipient's home network never sees the message content when the recipient is roaming!)

This means that "no roaming costs over WiFi" is a very dicy proposition, as a carrier either needs to restrict handovers (and I don't even know if that's allowed by the spec, not to mention the implications of dropping calls when going out of WiFi Range), cover the costs themselves, or move them onto the unsuspecting user if a handover happens.

OpenEUICC needs a rooted phone, while the provider-branded packages like EasyEUICC can run in user space (and thus needs to be signed with the corresponding hash).

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There are two variants of this project:

OpenEUICC: The full-fledged privileged variant. Due to its privilege requirement, OpenEUICC must be placed inside /system/priv-app and be signed with the platform certificate.

The preferred way to including OpenEUICC in a system image is to build it along with AOSP.

Note: When privileged, OpenEUICC supports any eUICC chip that implements the SGP.22 standard, internal or external. However, there is no guarantee that external (removable) eSIMs actually follow the standard. Please DO NOT submit bug reports for non-functioning removable eSIMs. They are NOT officially supported unless they also support / are supported by EasyEUICC, the unprivileged variant.

EasyEUICC: Unprivileged version that can run as a user app. This version supports two modes of operation: Inserted, removable eSIMs: Due to obvious security requirements, EasyEUICC is only able to access eSIM chips whose ARF/ARA contains the hash of EasyEUICC's signing certificate.

USB CCID Card Readers: Only T=0 readers that use the standard USB CCID protocol are supported. In this mode, EasyEUICC can access any eSIM chip loaded in the card reader regardless of their ARF/ARA, as long as they implement the SGP.22 standard.

Prebuilt release-mode EasyEUICC apks can be downloaded here For removable eSIM chip vendors: to have your chip supported by official builds of EasyEUICC when inserted, include the ARA-M hash 2A2FA878BC7C3354C2CF82935A5945A3EDAE4AFA

There’s no free WiFi without requiring a phone number. It allows the government to connect internet users to real identities.

I think this is why Apple releases the latest iPhones with physical SIM trays in China while the latest iPhones in North America are eSIM only

Currently I'm in Georgia, unlimited internet for a week is 9 GEL, or around 3ish USD per week. The cheapest on esdimdb is 19 USD for unlimited internet for a week.

What we usually do when we travel is buy the cheapest eSIM, usually on some introductory offer to get like 1GB for 1 USD (so we can order taxis, maps etc), then go to a local provider and get a local SIM.

One place where an eSIM was a good choice was China. I don't quite understand how it works, but it seems if you use an eSIM in China you get around the great firewall without needing a VPN.

I wish eSIMs were cheaper, so I wouldn't have to deal with the headache of doing that. When going to local providers, sometimes they offer an eSIM option, but there is usually no price difference.

Or does the esim spec have some kind of DRM to require you to use physical hardware with an embedded yet secret-to-you key?

[1] https://cdsassets.apple.com/live/7WUAS350/images/ios/ios-18-...

[2] https://lemmy.world/post/58708

You might not be able to use a provider's extended/rural or dense urban canyon filler cells, but I haven't yet been to a place where I didn't get any roaming connectivity at all.

In some countries (the US included), providers restrict the ability of devices not capable of e.g. VoIP to connect on certain bands (as there is no circuit switched fallback available there, and there's an FCC mandate that calls, in particular 911 calls, have to work wherever data works), but that's usually not applied to inbound roaming guests.

But now I have doubts, especially outside the EU: if it doesn't work, that would loose one of the advantages that I'd sort of expected eSIM to have: if your phone gets lost / stolen while abroad, you could just get a new eSIM from your carrier immediately, and set it up on your replacement phone.

In my case, my bank uses mandatory SMS 2FA for setting up their app on a new phone, thus making it impossible to make purchases with my card without having the being able to set up the app.

So I'd be back to the oldschool method of having a fried back at home set up the new eSIM, receive the 2FA code...

If that is the case, what would happen if we transferred the MAC address along with the eSIM? (assuming you have a jailbroken/rooted phone)

It's ultimately up to the provider which model they choose, but I really like the ones that allow both reuse of an existing profile and make it easy and free to provision a new one if required (e.g. due to a lost or broken device).

And a lot of operators have restrictions on phones. Imported phones are often blocked (and also not given access to VoLTE).

For me it is a big deal if it charges "sim fees". I do swap my sims very regularly. For testing, or to put one in my tablet when I travel. I just want to be fully free to do as I please.

But luckily I only use prepay these days and none of the carriers here in Europe that do prepay offer eSIM anyway.

They have great roaming deals so I like having its eSIM always installed, but if I change iPhone I have to visit a store Thailand. Fantastic. I ended up switching it for a physical SIM card.

The prices charged are often too high but depending on the setup the provider is using they might actually pay a vendor a fee every time an eSIM profile is generated.

Edit: Looks great but it's US only. But I think the one in the article spoke about a similar solution.

Really? Because I can swap a SIM card between phones in 30 seconds whereas swapping eSIM lies between "hoping it works" and "not possible", passing by "you'll need a document" or "visit the store, if it's anywhere in your city/country"

And how? The same way SIM locks did. EU made them illegal not without reason.