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The entire app is banned. They use a different one called Douyin.

I dont think tiktok app is banned because of algorithm, because bytedance created and maintains both Doyin and Tiktok.

I think it is form of compartmentalizing Internet and social networks, to keep Chinese internet and social media separate from the US.

the red book app, where tiktok refugees are flocking to right now, also want to introduce geofence and compartmentalize Chinese users and US users separately

Tiktok is banned completely in China because it doesn't not have the agressive filtering and CPP propaganda in place to operate in China. The CPP can not allow Chineze citizens to engage in an open exchange of ideas with eachother or with the citizens of other free nations, for obvious reasons.

>because it doesn't not have the agressive filtering and CPP propaganda in place to operate in China

Do you believe that all Chinese media is part of a propaganda machine?

Do you believe the same of American or French media?

Yes. No.

You cannot operate a TV channel, a radio station or a newspaper in China without running everything through CCP first for approval. You won't find a single news report critical of the CCP because of this.

Every social media app or website in China is required to ask for your real name and ID number, and implement any censorship requested by the party. If you post something that rubs the government the wrong way, your identity is readily available.

I don't believe this level of content control, censorship and user prosecution is there for all American media. And if it were, you are allowed to set up your own channel or social media app in America to be the exception.

>Every social media app or website in China is required to ask for your real name and ID number, and implement any censorship requested by the party. If you post something that rubs the government the wrong way, your identity is readily available.

I didn't know this. Do you have any reading on the subject you can recommend?

I don't have anything handy, but a quick search turned these up.

- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_real-name_system_in_C...

- https://www.technologyreview.com/2024/01/10/1086366/china-so...

- https://www.chinadaily.com.cn/a/202310/31/WS6541068aa3109068...

Yes. No.

(Although that No is getting a bit blurry with US social media bending over for commander cheeto)

You are making a distinction without a difference. China knows TikTok is harmful, which is why it allows it's export and bans domestic consumption. Think of it like a drug.

It’s not just about controlling content but also about controlling how users interact across borders

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