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> 5. Therefore all new development should be microservices written from scratch and interacting via cleanly defined APIs.

Not necessarily. You can get the same benefits you described in (1)-(3) by using clearly defined modules in your codebase, they don't need to be separate microservices.

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Agreed. If the microservice does not provide any value from being isolated, it is just a function call with extra steps.

I think the argument is that the extra value provided is a small enough context window for working with an LLM. Although I'd suggest making it a library if one can manage, that gives you the desired context reduction bounded by interfaces without taking on the complexities of adding an additional microservice.

I imagine throwing a test at an LLM and saying:

> hold the component under test constant (as well as the test itself), and walk the versions of the library until you can tell me where they're compatible and where they break.

If you tried to do that with a git bisect and everything in the same codebase, you'd end up varying all three (test, component, library) which is worse science than holding two constant and varying the third would be.

> I think the argument is that the extra value provided is a small enough context window for working with an LLM.

I'm not sure moving something that could work as function to a microservice would save much context. If anything, I think you are adding more context, since you would need to talk about the endpoint and having it route to the function that does what you need. When it is all over, you need to describe what the input and output is.

Oh certainly. I was arguing that if you need more isolation than a function gives you, don't jump to the conclusion that you need a service. Consider a library as a middle ground.

I wonder if we'll see a return of the kind of interface file present in C++, Ocaml, and Ada. These files, well commented, are naturally the context window to use for reference for a module.

Even if languages don't grow them back as a first class feature, some format that is auto generated from the code and doesn't include the function bodies is really what is needed here.

Python (which I mention because it is the preferred language of LLM output) has grown stub files that would work for this:

https://peps.python.org/pep-0484/#stub-files

I guess that this usecase would be an argument to include docstrings in your Python stub files, which I hadn’t considered before.

Indeed; I think there's a strong possibility that there's certain architectural choices where LLMs can do very well, and others where they would struggle.

There are with humans, but it's inconsistent; personally I really dislike VIPER, yet I've never felt the pain others insist comes with too much in a ViewController.

Yeah, I think monorepos will be better for LLMs. Easier to refactor module boundaries as context grows or requirements change.

But practices like stronger module boundaries, module docs, acceptance tests on internal dev-facing module APIs, etc are all things that will be much more valuable for LLM consumption. (And might make things more pleasant for humans too!)

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