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> We have examples like Elon who, through sheer force of will, defeats armies of people who don't care. For his many faults, you can't say the man doesn't care.

I fully expected that bit. Can't say I would agree in any way though. If anything, a perfect example of a person with way too much agency and executive power and way too little restraint and rationality. The perfect anti social candidate to not care but to want to appear to due to his own personal insecurities that the world now has to suffer for.

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Elon only cares about enriching himself.

If that's true what would be explanation of his gaming/streaming?

I believe his motivations are beyond getting rich. At some point in life money become means to goals, and goals are driven by real motivation.

Do you mean paying others to game for you?

> I believe his motivations are beyond getting rich. At some point in life money become means to goals, and goals are driven by real motivation.

They are now about acquiring power and respect from other people, after he became rich and everyone started making fun of him.

> If that's true what would be explanation of his gaming/streaming?

It's a PR stunt. He pays someone to play for him and level up his account. Then, he plays for a bit and it's painfully obvious that he's inexperienced.

He doesn't take criticism very well either. He recently removed a live streamers Twitter verification for pointing out his lack of skill. How's that for a "free speech" platform?

Elon is extremely partisan, insecure, and rich. That's it.

I think he mostly cares about getting humanity off this planet, he's been saying that for a long, long time.

Starting a space company to enrich yourself sounds like a very weird thing to do if you only care about money.

He don't want poor people with him, only his rich friends

He only cares about benefiting himself and promoting his image.

He's certainly working towards getting humanity of this planet by making it a worse place to survive. I'm not sure why you would praise him for that.

Also Elon lies all the time. He's even lying about playing games.

He's just trying to get money and power. Maybe he's doing some stuff that interests him on the side but he really doesn't care about you specifically.

Getting off this planet is easy without absurd missions like going to Mars. We could build space habitats or moon bases. Going to live on Mars is not an option for us at this time. We lack the biological resilience to do so. I won't even mention that it must be a planetary effort to even have some chance of success.

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Elon is already on it. They will annex Canada first, and then the rest will follow. When that is done, a planetary effort will be established.

That's not fair. He also cares what twitter randos think of him (e.g. to the point of paying to boost his diablo account or whatever).

What do you not agree with? That he doesn't care? I would assume scaling Tesla, SpaceX, SolarCity are net positive for the world (as it stands). Can you achieve those ambitious things if the leader/ceo of the company doesn't care?

I mean, he clearly didn't care that supervisors at his company were calling people the N-word on the job. He cares about benefiting himself and promoting his image, at least to a specific audience.

Perhaps the bike path engineer was focused on caring intensely about something else and didn't allocate much caring for the bike path.

You know what what happens when you assume...

Good rebuttal, very nice debate.

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