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Been following your posts since the beginning of this. We met a while ago after a Milwaukee WordCamp and I remember talking about API v2 and how WP was going to be brought into the modern era.

Honestly, the project just feels stagnant to me. I get wanting to support plugins/the community for as long as possible, but I fear not having a sensible web framework has done nothing but given credence to the common criticism that WP shouldn't be taken seriously.

From my perspective as an owner of a small open source project, Matt's comments have been petty and vindictive. I personally probably will never touch the platform again. There's too many other frameworks out there, whether you want something similar like Statamic, Grav, Drupal.. or if you want to build with an actual app framework with Laravel, ASP.NET Core, etc.

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Honestly, my first response to this whole fiasco was "people still use WordPress?" It turns out to still be very popular despite HTML infrastructure subsuming many features that WordPress used to offer (on one side) and competing platforms being just better for things like blogging/writing.

The plugin system is pretty amazing, and block themes allow really much better styling/ management of sites.

It’s not perfect but its easy to use and a lot of people know how to use it.

We switched our non profit to using it so we could have more people helping post content. We could teach something else, but this was fairly easy..

Yep. I’ve tried to avoid it but for groups where less technical people need to be able to edit pages and contribute content, WP continues to be the go-to solution. The last time around I tried to avoid it but after trying everything I could find, I gave up and installed it again. I’d love to see some alternatives spring up, but the plugin and theme ecosystem is so large I think it’d be hard to replace anytime soon.

> competing platforms being just better for things like blogging/writing

Have a favorite one? (Not a list of ten, please, just one or maybe two.) I've found WP easy & pleasant to use for my personal blogs, but I'm open to switching to something that's better and not associated with this nutbar.

Please give LiteGUI a try (https://github.com/SiteGUI-platform/litegui), like Wordpress it was built for freelancers/agencies to create more plugins/apps/themes easily.

> competing platforms being just better for things like blogging/writing.

The "just" is your explanation there. Most businesses want a blog, but also a half dozen other things. An event calendar, a mailing list, contact forms, an online store, etc, etc.

WordPress is kind of a mess technically, but you'd probably be surprised at some of the name-brand sites that use it. I want to say the NYT was using it at some point. It's the epitome of "don't let perfect be the enemy of good enough". You could build a better site by duct taping together a dozen services or open source products, but WordPress is generally good enough.

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