For those looking for a root cause why Zuck is suddenly "red pilled", he outright says that he is doing this because he sees an opening for the Trump administration to go to bat for Meta against foreign governments. He specifically notes the grievance with the EU, which he believes is arbitrarily fining US companies just to extract a pound of flesh, so to speak. He is looking for Trump to go nuclear to such events and to threaten trade wars, etc. A little protection racket, a little extortion racket. Ultimately the EU should just ban all Meta business, which they have every right to do.

As an aside, a few hilarious bits in this podcast are Rogan going off about the "Russian collusion hoax" (the one that led to some 35 guilty pleas and numerous prison sentences), seemingly having nothing to do with anything, whining about the "mainstream media" as a guy with tens of millions of subscribers and more listeners than just about any "MSM", and an hour and so in noting that he doesn't read comments online -- this was after he heralded social media being the real truth -- because that would be "delving into these people's mental illness".