Reading these threads I always come to the very same conclusion: diversity IS the problem and creates problems instead of providing any tangible benifits.
DEI is attempted solution to the "problem" and yet creates even more of a problem where people aren't hired based on merit and being the best candidate for the job.
None of those things are a problem in homogenous country. They simply do not exist.
Similarly it doesn't make sense that a person with a different skin color could bring anything new to the table, after all skin color does not matter.
Your country has men and women. It has gay and bi people. It has trans people. Young and old. It has blind people. It has amputees. It has atheists and religious people. It has mentally ill and chronically sick and abused kids and all sorts of other diverse conditions that have to be addressed with various accommodations.
Don't No-True-Scotsman and pontificate me what a homogenous and non-homegenous country is, I very well now what the difference is.
I've lived it, I've seen it, I've experienced it.
It's a symptom of a sick, atomized diverse society if it can be so easily fractured by using <0.1% fringe cases as tool.
Looks like you're desperately looking for some seams from which to break fabric of cohesive society appart.
Homogenous societies do not need nor should they offer special affordances to either atheists or religious people. Only diverse societies that have imported bunch of incompatible religions that beef with each other and prevailing culture (often violently!) that need "special" accomodations and guard rails to prevent escalations of conflict.
Your country may be homogenous in color, but in everything? Closest you probably get to that is the Vatican, and even there there’s various kinds of diversity.
What you're engaging in is transparent and glaringly obvious. It's subversive and downright malicious.
Even in a cohesive and homogenous society, you are desperately looking for any and all means to split, fracture and divvy up the population in warring "diversity" groups that are constantly at odds with each other. There has to be something you can use right?
Young children, the elderly, women, atheists or religious folk aren't a diversity group. They are just people.
I know exactly what you're doing, and it doesn't work in cohesive functional societies. They reject it.
No. Not preferential.
> It's called discrimination.
Using the US as an example again, we only got our first female Supreme Court justice until the 1980s. Two hundred years of men. Never a female President. This is pretty concrete evidence for discrimination against them in American society.
Somehow, trying to recognize that gets twisted backwards into the act itself.
A cohesive, functional society seeing significant gendered threats and violence: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cx2621gzvkdo
Why are black people “diverse” but women or Jews or blind people are not?
You keep dodging the question. Help me understand - what’s “diverse” and what’s “normal homogenous”? How do you determine which is which?
People don't live together, they live appart, that's a fractured, atomized society.
Homogenous countries don't have this, people just comfortably live together. There's no blind neighborhood, amputee neighborhood or woman neighborhood... that's ridiculous. And people don't constantly think which "hood" they represent or need special discriminatory "programmes" to forcefully include "everyone" from every "hood" who demonstrably don't want to live together and want to form their own hoods instead.
Way less woman on average being interested in programming isn't a sign of discrimination. That's completely normal.
Re: link. Not interested discusing anecdotes of all sorts of warring internet weirdos. Is not an argument.
This is deeply funny considering all you’ve offered is anecdotes and “nuh-uh”.
It's important for you to understand that I'm not trying to convince you of anything, you already have pronouns in bio, that's like trying to explain to a religious cultist that their particular god isn't real. Ie. waste of time.
The point is to bring out the crazy out of you for everyone else to see. Which you have already done by implying that you think women, elderly and children, handicapped (ie. blind people) are a diversity group. And all countries are diverse just because they have them. LOL
And you already displayed your incessant desire to desperately scramble for some ways to fracture cohesive societies.
The point was for you to brightly manifest those malicious diversant properties and not to convert a cultist.
Go look at any census map of a major us metropolitan city. You will find that people OF THEIR OWN VOLITION self segregate into living areas by race.
The onus is on the people claiming that 'diversity is our strength ' to prove it. So far with the majority of people self segregating worldwide by race; they are categorically wrong.
The USA was 90+% white before 1965, so for the majority of its history it had White SCOTUS judges. Do you seriously think that because the SCOTUS was 100% instead of 90% white that a great disservice was done to our country.
DEI means you end up employing some people who potentially aren't as technically qualified, but bring a different viewpoint to the team. Until I spent a long time living with Blacks (as a white) I never knew all the things they go through growing up, I never knew how their communities and families were organized, I never knew what sort of products they needed and what sort of products they bought. I never even watched BET in my life, or read Essence magazine, for instance. My life experience was a bubble that was cut off from a significant portion of the population.
Now add in Hispanics, Asians and every other culture and I am missing out on knowing how most of the world lives.
I would be pretty pissed off if I couldn't hire a the best qualified person in favor of someone with a different viewpoint that's not materially relevant to the position.
> My life experience was a bubble that was cut off from a significant portion of the population.
No offense, but nothing is stopping you from expanding your horizons, in this day and age it doesn't require you to live with other kinds of people. Nor is expanding your horizons particularly beneficial for many/most domains we work in. I can speak 3 languages, have lived in the US/Europe, grew up in a poor US black/hispanic neighborhood, etc. Knowing how other people live has never given me any particular insight that was helpful at my software development job.
My highly-skilled coworker (and friend) is black/hispanic, he hates this DEI stuff. He didn't get his job from any DEI initiatives (we've worked together at previous employers, his connections/reputation got him here), but that won't stop people who don't know him from wondering if he's actually competent, or is just here because of some DEI quota.