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It's such a shame that a big successful Rails or Django equivalent never really materialized in the Node world. It's not like nobody tried. There were so many times it seemed like one was gaining traction, then it would be abandoned or zombified or commercialized, and it just never happened. I really can't understand why.

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Have you checked https://adonisjs.com/ ? Seems it follows the Rails / Laravel way of doing things

It's essentially Next.js. I believe the only thing missing is ORM, but you have choices, for better or worse, in Prisma and Drizzle.

You do have to pick an auth lib (most use Next-Auth aka Auth.js) but Rails needed auth lib until Rails 8 a couple months ago.

The traction behind Next.js is so large, it's much bigger than Rails, Django, and Laravel for new projects the last couple years: https://trends.stackoverflow.co/?tags=next.js,ruby-on-rails,...

Laravel still seems a lot more fleshed out on the back end. Job queues, task scheduling, notifications, migrations, email. Seems to be a lot more of a cohesive package, everything working together.

Indeed Next is the closest we've gotten, but see: commercialized. The default path for Rails and Django is not a vendor locked in cloud offering; they are truly FOSS projects. It seems like its that mentality which died out more than anything else, really. Also "just picking an ORM" is actually one of the key killer features of Django/Rails in general. There is no fully batteries included equivalent for JS land sadly.

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