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I also saw an article on here that to me that seems to support your statement:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42609948

I also have a relative going for a PHD, he says many times for the classes he teaches, students are using AI for their homework. He has brought that up may times to his superiors but the response tends to be "oh well".

Sad world we may be heading towards :(

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It’s a bit like the old saying about the banks: “If you owe the bank $10,000 it’s your problem. If you owe the bank $10,000,000 it’s the banks problem”. If everyone in class is using LLMs to cheat, it’s really the university/instructors problem and it may be easier to bury their heads in the sand then to change their teaching methods and lesson plans. You can’t fail them all…

Why not?

Today the university is a business and the students are the customers.

Inertia. They were cheating a lot when I was a TA, but using whatsapp groups and other online resources. Nothing changed then, and it probably won't change much now.

When I taught a class of engineering students Python in 2015 they were all copying from each other, did some basic plagiarism checks and 40% had submitted identical code. The University then didn’t care, lots of international students paying higher fees than domestic students.

That's how universities lose their reputation, and that's why the programmer hiring process is so complicated.

Harvard passes 98% of intake.

The quality of the teaching or learning seems almost irrelevant already.

(Edit) link confirming 98%: https://college.harvard.edu/resources/faq/what-harvards-grad...

If you consider that plagiarism it's a bit overzealous. Definitely not in the same league as asking chatgpt to solve for you.

Working with or seeking information from colleagues is a valid and essential part of university.

It is plagiarism, we’re not talking simple weekly assignment, it was a core course and it was a 40% of the module. They had to write a report along with it and two Chinese students had copied much of that from Wikipedia and had the same exact passages!

Ah I thought you meant stuff like " write a sorting algorithm given this function signature in C"

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