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Apple to pay $95M to settle lawsuit accusing Siri of snoopy eavesdropping

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"Apple isn’t acknowledging any wrongdoing in the settlement, ... " - Why would Apple settle? Just to make this go away?

I cannot believe that "recording conversations and selling the data to advertisers" is something that actually happened. Does anyone? That feels like such a gross departure from their privacy commitments ...

> I cannot believe that "recording conversations and selling the data to advertisers" is something that actually happened.

Why not?

It's very much the opposite of Apple's brand. Apple simply does not do this.

You assume an awful lot for someone that has no executive insight into how Apple operates. How are you so sure?

That's not an assumption. It's easy enough to look at what Apple does.

I agree, which is why I'm shocked that anyone can act surprised: https://www.macrumors.com/2023/12/06/apple-governments-surve...

It's a company with shareholders. Also they don't even hide that they sell some information for ads targeting.

That's exactly what they don't do.

They absolutely give cookie data to Google for marketing their products, and they absolutely give targeting data to Apple News publishers. Funny how they don't let you uninstall or disable Apple News even on Mac, let alone iOS, which was already known to be locked down for Apple's profit.

False. They don't give anything to Google, and I just removed the News app from my phone just to prove it could be done.

iOS isn't locked down for "Apple's profit", it's locked down for the users' security. This isn't really controversial, only really hardcore Google shills who don't know anything about Apple would argue otherwise.

Apple is a very aggressive and ruthless company... Just look at their lobby activities, how they go against the right to repair and how they generally try to ruthlessly lock you into their ecosystem... So this seems to be pretty much on character for me

If their commitment to privacy was more than virtue signaling they wouldn't take billions of dollars a year selling their search users to Google.

> I cannot believe that "recording conversations and selling the data to advertisers" is something that actually happened.

Btw, I own the Brooklyn bridge, would you like to see it? It's for sale!

Of course it happened! How do you think Siri looks stuff up on the web? There has to be some sort of identifier that gets sent off, otherwise how else would that work? If that indentifier is sent to, say, a search engine, and that search engine is paying for that traffic, Apple is now taking ad money for Siri searches.

Earlier: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42578929

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