The Cybertruck that exploded and the New Orleans vehicle both rented using Turo
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We had a bunch of tough requirements so the deep investigation panned out nicely - only spent a couple of thousand and got to road trip with several nice vehicles and family had a strong favorite which we bought (used).
I'm fairly sure people who rent the cars on Turo need a specific insurance program but not sure if they cover these kinds of events.
These acts are done for notoriety and taking a gun into a school or a market has become so normalized we are seeing more attacks like this that can be done anywhere at anytime with easily available items like trucks.
I agree that we need to figure out how to solve this, but our consumption of media is a key part of it. The very thing that uses fear and anger to keep us all engaged is the vehicle these attackers rely on to attain notoriety.
If we all turned off the feed, would so many sick people be plotting to make headlines in the worst ways possible?
> I agree that we need to figure out how to solve this, but our consumption of media is a key part of it. The very thing that uses fear and anger to keep us all engaged is the vehicle these attackers rely on to attain notoriety.
Bikeshedding about trivial details doesn't accomplish that.
Felon after Felon renting my cars
https://old.reddit.com/r/turo/comments/1hnh3i3/felon_after_f...
Not even the glass doors of the lobby were broken."
Why did he post it? Why did the attacker choose a CyberTruck?
If we are going to open up on speculation, then it seems reasonable to suspect that the attacker chose a CyberTruck because of Elon's relationship to the incoming administration. In response it makes sense that Elon would highlight the inept execution.
Some partisan responses to the health insurer's assassination have been positive. Even comments on this site seem to be rationalizing the violence. Typically, decent people would condemn terrorist violence as irrational escalation.
Highlighting the inept execution and poor planning illustrates the irrationality of the attacker. If Elon can subtly parlay it into some of the safety marketing or durability of his vehicle, that's an extra win on top.
Compare the narratives:
"Luigi was a smart guy and master planner who read books. Let's plug the author."
"It didn't even break the glass"
Is it fair to say this kind of distortion is typical MAGA? Typical Republican? Is it decent? Why lie?
Fox initially ran with a story the NOLA truck illegally crossed the border with Mexico. This disinformation is intentional, no one is this incompetent. They know their demographic wants to be lied to. Disinformation is the product they're selling. Same with the politicians.
Turtles all the way down. I would say it typifies media across the board. There's also the meta-distortion where partisan sources misrepresent the statements of opposing partisans to present them as dishonest.
It depends on what you mean by 'media', but I think among top-level news media, Fox and ideological fellow travelers embrace disinformation and produce it at orders of magnitude higher volumes, while others make occasional errors.
That's the right title.
Do you remember when, for hours and days, CNN and other news sources refused to acknowledge the assassination attempt, saying that he was hit by something not directed at him?
https://apnews.com/article/trump-bullet-shrapnel-ronny-jacks...
That’s usually what happens when news orgs only report confirmed information, e.g. “Trump hit by projectile”. It feels misleading but it’s accurate at the time.
If you’re literally saying they were specifically stating he was hit by something “not directed at him” (as opposed to “not confirmed whether it was directed at him”) I’d be fascinated to see some examples.
CNN published this headline one day after.
"How the assassination attempt on Trump unfolded"
https://edition.cnn.com/2024/07/14/politics/what-happened-tr...
Yeah yeah they edit these headlines and articles in real time. Even Archive.org cannot keep up with news, and they do nothing for search results which is what I was talking about. By the way, the Internet Archive was mysteriously down for several weeks during election season after Trump's multiple assassination attempts, and I don't buy their story either.
>The info is not there. Misinformation, sure.
You only provided one CNN link, which was likely modified in real time. The memory hole is real.
The mainsteam denial went on for quite a while. They first questioned whether he was shot, then they questioned the obvious motive of the assassin with stupid crap like "It is unclear what the shooter's motive was, or if it was political." To be fair a high-ranking FBI official was muddying the water and the media is practically obligated to take that seriously ( https://nypost.com/2024/07/25/us-news/fbi-director-christoph... for example). But take your lame apologetics elsewhere. I saw this unfold in real time by the hour, as a case study in propaganda and gaslighting.
Edit: Your trolling is testing the rate limit. Here's your reply, jerk:
>Nope, the article headline was not modified in real time. But you don't care because you are only interested in information that confirms your delusion.
You are arguing with me about stuff I watched very carefully with my own eyes only a few months ago. Take your snotty attitude and gaslighting elsewhere. Do not reply to me again on anything political, ever.
considering that it was rented in Colorado, parked right in front of the trump hotel lobby with the trump hotel sign right above it, and exploded right after, the simplest explanation seems to be that it was intentional and that causing a scene was more important to them than killing.
Is that bad judgement too? I swear to God the mental gymnastics to blame Tesla...
That's not a fact. I just watched a reputable report the morning after that also reiterated the FBI's position that there was still uncertainty if it was intentional or not.
I don’t know if the police themselves have actually called this a deliberate act yet. Yes, the evidence looks pretty overwhelming but it might be that media orgs don’t want to jump the gun on a highly sensitive topic.
As for examples, this is the most obviously damning one I can remember: a pregnant nurse (white of course) was accused of stealing an e-bike from a black man standing in a group of several other black men. The NATIONAL media wasted zero time going to her employer, talking to her neighbors, basically putting her in danger over what was at worst a misunderstanding. The pundits were out there talking smack about "weaponized white tears" and that kind of horrible hateful rant against white people and especially white women. Here's one of the updates where she tried to get people off her back: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12100201/Pregnant-N...
You know fox news represents more than half of the TV news audience, right?
https://www.pewresearch.org/journalism/fact-sheet/cable-news...
Funny how you link the rag daily mail instead of the news organizations you are actually accusing.
>You know fox news represents more than half of the TV news audience, right?
I'm not talking about market share, I'm talking about representation in these institutions. You should know better.
I didn't just make that up about the media being biased toward the left either. It has been proven in multiple surveys and polls. Individual journalists themselves tend to lean left, and so do their agencies overall. Look at how the staff of Washington Post freaked out in response to Bezos telling them to be less biased: https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/washingt...
Here's a study you might be interested in, one of many (not that I have a bibliography of this): https://emilkirkegaard.dk/en/2021/10/new-paper-out-the-left-...
If you think more than half of all people prefer Fox News to the rest, that ought to tell you how insufferably biased they are. These used to be well-respected institutions but they have destroyed any semblance of impartiality in writing and good will toward the masses.
Hmm so people who spend their time researching economic, social, and political issues lean left? And that doesn't indicate anything to you?
Here's a study you might be interested in
No, I'm not interested in any sketchy links / misinformation you are providing.
These used to be well-respected institutions but they have destroyed any semblance of impartiality in writing and good will toward the masses.
Or conservative media like fox news panders to racism and bigotry for profit.
That would make it a deliberate act of r/FloridaMan stupidity.
No, anti-populist political agitation psyops backed by pervasive censorship campaigns are the problem. People who blame that problem on free and open channels of communication might be an even bigger problem.
A Tesla Cybertruck 'blew up' outside Trump's hotel in Las Vegas
B. BusinessInsider isn’t a real site. It’s a political blog pretending to be legitimate on zero earned merit.
C. Why does it matter that it was rented? And how is this some stunning reveal of a Turo business flaw that the NOLA murderer also used the popular rental service?
Both were EV trucks rented through Turo and had explosives placed in them on the same day. Hell of a coincidence if not related.
https://youtu.be/HLgKKKWDJF0?si=eRWipHRDMJ08Qltc at 1:07.
I Googled "Cybertruck exploding" and it came up. It took 5 or maybe 10 seconds.
Are you trying to quibble over whether the car itself exploded? If so, what point are you trying to make?
What killed the occupant?
There aren't that many rental car companies: this is the birthday paradox in action.
If price was a factor, why rent a Cybertruck, or any truck at all? Or an EV? A small traditional car would be much cheaper.
Does Turo make it easier to rent a car anonymously or with false identity? I've never heard of them or used them just wondering if that might be more the reason. I see they are "Car rentals, reimagined" and they sound something like an AirBNB for cars so it would be unsurprising to me if they played fast and loose with things like customer identification.
The reason I use Turo is that they offer a wide variety of vehicles, and you get to pick out what exact car you’re going to rent when you book it. I’ve used it to rent models that I’m considering buying. I’ve also used it just to avoid repeating the miserable experience of waiting in line at the rental counter for an hour after my flight lands at 1 AM. I can rent something nice, and pick it up from the parking garage next to the terminal.
Anyway, if I wanted to rent a Cybertruck, or any other specific model, Turo is certainly how I’d do it.
Perhaps there might be some stricter rules coming, as rented vehicles seem to play into a lot of terrorist plans. On the other hand, I guess if all the past events didn't prompt that, why would these latest two?
The symbolic alignment there is... considerable, for it to be a coincidence.