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Comment by deanc | Hacker News Reader

I hate to be blunt here but if you are complaining about 3min builds and 10s start-up times for a dev environment, you are looking at the wrong areas of optimisation.

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? These are complete unacceptable, developer feedback loops should be measured in milliseconds not minutes.

These are for cloud / non local builds no? My company is pushing 10-15 minutes for cloud deployments. I'd love for 3 minutes.

Is the implication developer experience does not matter and user experience is the only thing that matters?

I can improve the user experience faster and more reliably if i can iterate faster.

While I wouldn’t agree with the sibling comment that says it needs to be measured in milliseconds, I will say that the faster it is, the more motivated I am to work on it as well.

No, but when you choose NextJS you're choosing a product and should evaluate the reasons for doing it. It's abstracting away a substantial amount of pain points in deploying and optimising react apps. The OP even talks about some of the things he's losing out on by dropping it. We spend so much time as developers moving on to the next thing, instead of shipping and worrying about a few mins of build time when deploying (which is nothing).

It's not only a few mins when deploying. Often you want to test the production build locally and it feels like waiting forever. Especially since clicking around in an app for the dev build is slow during cold use. I think it has gotten worse as I don't remember build times taking so long in next versions 5 thru 9 or so.

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