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Yes, it quickly became clear that at least in the US the majority of the population will not accept any restrictions until (at least) there are bodies literally piled in the streets. And probably not even then, IMO.

Will be a grim scene.

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People in the US followed until the government got stupid, lied, caved to corporations, etc.

If you want people to follow instructions, you need to demonstrate competence first.

Reread my comment carefully. I don’t care why people won’t obey. It’s just clear that they will not obey.

And why should they if it doesn’t make sense?

Reread my comment carefully. I don’t care if they obey or not. It’s just clear they will not obey.

But your comment implies they should blindly obey (does it not?)

No. More like a Rorschach for whatever the reader wants to believe.

Yep. Starting things off by lying about masks set a terrible precedent. Much blood on Fauci’s hands.

Austria got tired of mitigation strategies they still obeyed the rules better than much of the US, but I am doubtful next time a lockdown or restrictions are needed

I think the only exception is that if the pandemic kills primarily children, and at high rates. We don't care much about the elderly or even the middle-aged, but our society as a whole has a pretty strong "think of the children" attitude that would guarantee strict and prolonged lockdowns in that scenario.

You are more hopeful than I am. The think of the children attitude is only when it’s politically advantageous. 16% of kids live in poverty. We’ll do whatever we can to protect children before they’re born then go like, “good luck” once they’re born.

Twenty children were shot in their elementary school and that wasn't enough to make the US take action.

but our society as a whole has a pretty strong "think of the children" attitude that would guarantee strict and prolonged lockdowns in that scenario.

in the US this cannot be further from the truth. we allow our children to be slaughtered in school, be hungry, be without health insurance. US cares more about 8754 other things before children

Don't forget we also use our knowledge of science and psychology to capture and destroy the attention spans of the our children for the "short term" enrichment of elite shareholders. I say short term because I think the whole country is soon to face very real issues as a result.

> we allow our children to be slaughtered in school

Even though this is true, it's not at the same scale.

Covid was killing more people in one week in Florida than nationally in school shootings the decade prior or something like this.

It was not even close.

But you are right. The "think of the children" is mainly performative and depends tremendously on who the children are.

The "think of the children" is mainly performative and depends tremendously on who the children are.

agree with your post except this part… I honestly do not think it matters at all who the children are - the US entire system is setup to do exactly the opposite of thinking of the children. if there is money involved in any way children will get fucked (the most recent example being KOSA which was voted in senate almost unanimously only to then be killed by zuck paying everyone off…). I find all “think of chidren” garbage very amusing (though of course it is no laughing matter)

I partially agree.

I think that the USA is one of the worst places to grow up in the "developed" world.

Countries far poorer and less "developed" do a much better job.

But I do maintain, the right children will be somewhat protected, even though it's overwhelming performative.

Not even then.

They'll just assume it was some demonic thing and double down on jesus.

Both the jew and scapegoating their neighbor Jesus from Guatemala.

Remember week 58 of "2 weeks to slow the spread"? It would be lovely to have a public health establishment that was competent, science based and trust worthy but they showed themselves to be dishonest and beholden to hysterics.

EDIT: And don't forget the spicy dash of left wing politics that they added to all their decisions. BLM riots were ok, church gatherings not OK.

BLM protests were outside, with majority of people wearing masks. There was quite a lot of outdoor activities that were allowed. The risk factor isn’t even close to indoor gathering in a poorly ventilated space.

I don’t think riots were ever “OK” in any official estimation. Are you actually saying the government encouraged riots?

And all indoor gatherings were discouraged, not just church gatherings. Especially gatherings where people sing. Remember the choir rehearsal that killed two people? [0]

[0] https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2020-03-29/corona...

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