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I think this should have moved faster, but there's no way this is a single days work.

Especially since a large part of the required work is meta work to show that they worked "properly".

There are executive orders (and maybe laws? can't remember) that require all rule making to be subject to thorough cost benefit analysis.

One of the required actions between a proposed and final rule is to review, reply to, and perhaps amend rules based on comments. The final report indicates 400 comments, and includes responses to basically all of them.

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All of that is evidence of the ineffectiveness of government bureaucracies. You’re describing the way things work today. I’m saying the way it works is broken and needs to change. Allowing claims that salmon or water is healthy shouldn’t take long.

Salmon can be accumulators of plastics and heavy metals. It is not as simple was labeling things as healthy or not healthy.

Salmon is healthy and it is that simple. You’re bringing up unproductive questions that could go on forever about any food. If that’s the goal, we don’t need the bureaucracy. It’s the same outcome as shutting down this part of the agency, since they aren’t going to declare anything until decades after the world already moved on from their broken guidance and figured out that salmon or whatever else is healthy. No one serious questions that salmon is healthy, obviously. So let’s at least save the money.

Disagree that these are unproductive questions.

For tuna it's recommended you don't eat it frequently becasue of high mercury levels.

Why would not consider that for things like salmon?

And there's the wild vs farmed issue. And then it matters which waters they're in, and feed their given etc.

I agree that it should go faster.

Unfortunately government bureaucracies basically operate in low trust mode because of accumulated scar tissue from previous problems.

Ripping out guard rails without building a high trust environment is asking for a speed run of all of the scar tissue to reform.

The fact that you characterized a slow process as corrupt, when a huge amount of the slowness is because of mandated rules put in place to attempt to mitigate corruption is in itself a sign of the low trust hell that these regulators live in.

> Allowing claims that salmon or water is healthy shouldn’t take long.

Seems suss. The root word of Salmonella is Salmon; clearly it may not be healthy.

Water is just a rebranding of dihydrogen monixide, and we all know how bad that stuff is. It's made from rocket fuel, and you're trying to push it off as healthy?

The root word of Salmonella is Salmon; clearly it may not be healthy.

If you’re digging up Dr. Salmon, after whom Salmonella is named, and consuming his corpse…yeah, that might be a bad idea.

The speed (or lack thereof) at which our administrative agencies make rules is a reflection of the speed (or lack thereof) at which our democracy reaches consensus on change. What you're seeing isn't so much inefficiency, but rather how process works in a democracy. It's slow because Congress made it slow.

If we lived in a dictatorship, things would go faster, public be damned. China gets things done, but at great expense to the impacted people.

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