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Their iGPUs are good enough for day-to-day (non gaming) computer use and rock-solid in Linux.

???

The lunar lake Xe (IE the generation before the current one) is not rock solid on linux - i can get it to crash the gpu consistently just by loading enough things that use GL. Not like 100, like 5.

If i start chrome and signal and something else, it often crashes the gpu after a few minutes.

I've tried latest kernel and firmware and mesa and ....

The GPU should not crash, period.

Same here. But the older version are rock solid, and have very low power draw for office/browsing, which is really nice.

I will say it's nice that the gpu crash only hangs the app i'm in and not like crashes the system as a lot of the other gpus. They do seem to have figured out how to properly isolate and recover their gpu.

But it also feels like that's because it crashed so much it was bothering their engineers, so they made the recovery robust.

I can reliably crash my GPU firmware/driver so that reboot is needed to fix, so not everything gets recovered/is recoverable (on Linux at least).

Good enough? Maybe better today, but they have been god awful compared to AMD and absolute garbage compared to something like M1 iGPU. They are responsible for more than half of the pain inflicted on users in Vista days.

Ironically, they have lost the driver advantage in Linux with their latest Arc stuff.

I trust they could have done a lot better, a lot earlier, if they cared to invest in iGPU. Feels like deliberately neglected.

The same way missing mobile feels so nuts that it's gotta be deliberate.

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