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> People are very capable of good design but are not given time to do good design.

So they're only good in theory given infinite time, but not in the real world where someone's waiting to be able to use what they're working on?

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Who said anything about infinite time? What the poster (you're responding to) meant was due to the nature of our profession's leniency about tech debt and "go go go" push from non-tech (PM, SM etc.) it's always lesser time than needed.

Yeah saying someone is only competent when given literally unbounded time is equivalent to saying they are not competent in the real world… where people have a finite amount of time.

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